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Johnny Mac's Salavation is not from Christ on the Cross but by having your name plucked from a hat before time He preaches a different gospel.

Calvinist and a Baptist :doh::doh: yeah this is going to be an honest thread.

Oh that Hack, I can't stomach him. He preaches a different gospel One where your salvation is depended on being picked from Lottery bowl before you were born . Which in essence your salvation is depended on that and not on Christ on the Cross. He promotes hate and division, that is the work...

And everybody had a copy and everybody had a book by their nightstand. Also how many people do you think were able to read and write back then? Also a few of Paul's writings are a far cry from a full cannonzied Bible. I think it's safe to say for the first few Centuries, the Early...

just curious what did the early Christians use for doctrine and beliefs and the forming the Christian Faith centuries before the bible was put together? would it be Traditions passed on? and oh about the lies and things the Adventist spread, why not head over the the making the sign of the...

we bow everytime we cross the alter:) Most people people bow before entering the pew as well, but I do the bended knee, sign of the cross:crossrc:

<staff edit> is this SOP propaganda taught in SDA church's? or is this some fringe out in left field that the SDA's don't acknowledge I really hope it's the latter.

actually that's not true, the fact he chose Apostles who then set up Bishops is most certainly the structure and order that Christ set up. I don't care if it's called a government or what have not, it's most certianly is structure. He did not say well I did what I had to, well good luck...

I love the huge irony here that a Baptist Church (which lives and breathes by believers baptism) chose to cherry pick a quote from Martin Luther when he was speaking about the need for baptizing infants.:doh:^_^

no mistaken that. LOL Last summer my family and I were up in Saratoga Springs for the races, went with my father to morning mass and same deal but alittle smaller, you could see all the little jockey's in church. ^_^

Mike Smith a jockey, crossing himself three times after each race, win or lose, thanking God that he and his horse and his fellow jockey's and horses came home safe. He's the real deal too, he'll be at Mass everyday during the Summer in Saratoga.

you beat me to it, Yeah there is nothing phoney about Troy crossing himself Orthodox glad to claim Polamalu as one of their own

Me too ihave no issues being on bended knee before the Lord

Your welcome and sorry about earlier And to tyndale i do left to right clockwise?

No i grew up Methodist so we never did it my father being Catholic we were exposed to it. I personally like it because i feel very humbled bt it. To me its physical gesture to Christ to bless me and a way in a small gesture of humility and respect. Iguess it is for me what the waving of...

yeah probably did, but I was hoping just to head things off first before it headed down the typical rabbit hole, which I guess I sort of contributed to it myself. sorry

I use three, my index, middle and thumb

actually I do have one:) I said beause "you think" it's unbiblical etc. Just don't know why every thread has to end up being an us vs them. that's all.

Nope just tired of Evangelicals telling everyone who is saved, who isn't saved, who worships Christ better, who has the Holy Spirit and who doesn't , What is considered proper worship and what isn't it Not every thread has to be a us vs them. this is an act that crosses denominational...

This is why we can't have nice things