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Avonia has been traveling! Yes, this is a perfect time to say goodbye. I've so appreciated all of you - what a joy to meet so many people and exchange ideas. I wish all of you nothing but the best! Avonia

You have a flare for understatement. For sure. kc4 may be better served by simply saying "I believe this because I feel called to it" instead of attempting debate - especially with somebody like Victor who takes the time and care to only offer that which is carefully thought out. I admire that...

And there you have it. Now if we could only do more of it.

Dilution is a threat to the prevailing consensus.

I'm for it. And I've seen it in our church. I didn't teach from the SS quarterly. I figured there were other teachers in our church in that role. But as you can imagine, we explored broadly in my class. I can tell you from a good amount of personal experience that this one is pretty tightly...

Gossamyrrh, don't tell anyone on this forum, but I too have mystical inklings - to say the least. That path has been the most meaningful of my life. What I've learned is that you don't have to share everything with everybody. Especially things that trip them up. One of the best pieces of...

"Lord, save me from your people." One of the craziest things I've seen happened in a little church I was visiting. Apparently, the church had been working for years to "convert" an older man who was the rough-and-tumble mountain man type. They finally succeeded (probably wore him out) and...

What's interesting about that belief is that a minority of people now - and throughout history - have even been exposed to the idea. So I hope that's not a criteria either. It seems a simpler and more comprehensive way to look at it is that a parent does whatever is necessary to help a child...

Oh my. If you really want to know, I can help you take the first step. But most of the people you reference don't care about your list one way or the other.

I would hope that forums like this could be valuable in expanding such a frame of reference. Unless their church forbids "outside contact" - :)

For me, that's just semantics. And doesn't address the issue of God being a poor disciplinarian. That's like saying my child chose not to learn that she can be killed by playing on the train tracks, so the train eventually hit her.

If this is true, Babylon must be one of the most comprehensive sources of truth on the planet. The taproot.

I'm trying to image being censurable . . . :)

Lostandfoundgirl, I checked out your post in the ethics forum. The most disheartening sexual relationships I see are more often in marriage - not outside of it. For many, sex has become a low-level act based on need instead of a creative expression. One of the most unfortunate situations is...

We know from experience that we can learn from our mistakes and treat each other lovingly, or we can be further consumed by fear and treat each other poorly. When we choose the former, we coexist in more heavenly conditions. When we choose the latter, we coexist in more hellish conditions...

We have two movements in our lives. One happens when we learn. And the other happens when we fail to learn and find ourselves in more difficult conditions. When we fail to learn a lesson it does not make us less perfect. Nor does it make us more perfect when we learn a lesson.

Fear impairs our judgment more than wine in the belly. By a lot.

For sure.

I think that's well said. The unfortunate disconnect for me is that a majority of my exposure to unhealthful eating came from SDAs - boarding academy, colleges, potlucks, and the sort. Overall, those in my SDA circle live more poorly than those outside - but my frame of reference is a little...

Speaking for God's intentions? Wow.