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Not all people who say they are following Christ are following Christ (matt 7:21-23). Not to mention before the man of lawlessness can show up, the apostacy must happen first (2 Thess 2:3). Having a false Christ is necessary in order for this man to appear, so saying the anti-christ cannot be...

Correct... we are the government. Which means our decisions, to be Godly, must line up with what government has been appointed to do. If our decision came from our personal not avenging evil, we would be violating Jesus command of not giving to Caesar what is God's. Both our personal not...

I went back and checked... you are correct. My apologies. I read into your post something that was not there. :doh: My point was, the love of the OT is the love of the NT. The NT just has one added command of love (which doesn't change the nature of the first two commands). So again, my...

My eyes are open. It is going very fast and very loud (Dan 7:8). My point was a concept takes longer than just language to change. The saints will never lose the concepts (Jude 1:3 Handed down once for all) nor stop proclaiming them, but we will be defeated in regards to those concepts. As the...

Quite a bit more than that: "Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it."...

The teaching is not a contradicition at all. Just like Matt 23:37: "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling." That is a...

I didn't. I pointed out the love of the NT is the same as the OT, with one added point. I didn't take away... I added.

They are good and evil in their repective areas (Caesar's and God's). Not avenging is good in God's. It is not in Caesar's. It has everything to do with the topic. Governemnt maximizing freedom directly contradicts Romans. You don't get both, you have to pick one. It is either (A) avenge...

Not an insult, but a correct observation. Examine yourself (2 Cor 13:5). That is why it was ironic, as "your words are (sic) do not correctly express the teachings of Jesus" either.... Another reveal of the root. Even Jesus said the scriptures could not be broken (John 10:35) and told people...

Words can change through usage, but it takes a lot more to change a concept. So no, a meaning will not automatically change because a group tried to make it so. France tried keeping french "pure" by implementing what amounted to a language police.... it didn't work. Language naturally changes...

The topic was love. Something you equate with homosexuality... Did you notice the scriptures tell you the love you are espousing is actually hate towards God. You aren't preaching love at all.... The love which does not abhor sin is not love (Rom 12:9). Those that do not belief in Jesus...

Just like Assyria (Evil) was the rod of His anger against Israel. And after His purpose through them was finished, He punished Assyria as well. Isa 10:5-12 Guess I'll keep posting these as you don't seem to have an answer: -Being saved is by grace. (Eph 2:8,9) -Mercy does not depend upon...

You and Archivist did get together! It shows :doh: Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is one (Matt 7:21-23). Just as not every organization that calls itself a church is part of the body of Christ. You had my reply in your own statement: "[...]Not what the truth is[...]" A mixed...

It was not an analogy. I didn't argue from laws, but from scripture where a man = a man no matter the color. And marriage is man and woman (Matt 19:3-9). If I did I would have pointed out what you wrote (basically). Mixed marriages were defined as being ok to discriminate against, because...

I agree, but with a caveat. The second commandment is evil without the first (Matt 22:36-40). Christian values, without God is not good. Matt 7:21-23 shows this. Which is why I said The United States is not righteous, but of Caesar. But ya, the further away from those values, the further the...

If your righteous, your fruit isn't showing. It could be a baby tree though... Ironic :thumbsup: The Bible says governments are to be avengers of those who practice evil (Rom 13:4). Avenging can have many forms, from execution to taxing. Upholding evil as rights is definately contrary to...

The Biblical standard for what a government is appointed to do is "an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil." Rom 13:4 Government's Godly actions are in punishing evil, not upholding freedom... which would include evil. So either Rom 13:4 is correct or upholding freedom is...

Correct about the document not being Christian. And if one is living as a Christian, then when a government you have a voice in is upholding evil, you call evil what it is. And this is compatable with respecting what government God has put in place for His purpose. Your first staement is...

I think you are arguing with someone else. My point was your claim about God forcing Himself on someone can be used in the exact same way in regards to creation. Evil cannot come from God. Once evil is there God controls it (sovereign). Like hardening a heart, God doesn't take a good heart...

I think we agree, but let me phrase it in a different way. The United States is not a righteous nation. One cannot be righteous without Jesus... and Jesus isn't anywhere in the government (nor could it... it is Caesar Matt 22:21). But there have been many righteous people living in the...