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    Your stand on homosexuality?

    What is "promotion?"
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    Proper Christian Behavior Does Not Include

    A colleague in the office near mine is a classicist and a professor of Greek and Latin. He teaches ancient history also. He says that "homosexual offenders" is, in his judgment, a mistranslation.
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    Proper Christian Behavior Does Not Include

    So you applaud Floatingaxe for denouncing my church? Is that the Christian spirit, to denounce churches because they are different from one's own church? Is supporting and welcoming gay people in one's church really the "antichrist spirit," as Floatingaxe has suggested? Do you agree with her...
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    Proper Christian Behavior Does Not Include

    So my "perverse acts" are belonging to a church whose members disagree with you? My church, btw, does not cram anything down anyone's throats. People in my church are free to embrace whatever theological doctrines they wish. We are about as far from cramming anything as a church can get! I do...
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    Ye Must Be Born Again

    Good questions. I see the Bible as one source for trying to understand God's will, but it's not the only source, and for me it's not the most important source. I believe that we come to know God's will through prayer, as you yourself suggested, and through meditation and study, through our own...
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    Proper Christian Behavior Does Not Include

    Of course all homsexuals are different. So are all heterosexuals. Or all Christians. I will say that I live a Christian lifestyle without making a fuss over the fact that all Christians live diiferently. When we talk about any group it is impossible not to generalise somewhat. This is an...
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    Today is a sad day

    But Jesus never said what you claim he did about homosexuality. You DON'T agree with Jesus on this; that's your imagination talking. You apparently imagine what you wish Jesus thought and thinks, and then you agree with your own imagined ideas. But they are not anything Jesus ever said.
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    Today is a sad day

    You are projecting your personal beliefs onto God, and onto Jesus.
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    Today is a sad day

    Your view is clear. I think it's incorrect. Jesus never said anything about same-sex marriage or homosexuality, as far as we know. Gay Christians and Christians who support us are not disagreeing with Jesus, but many of us are disagreeing with you.
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    Today is a sad day

    And Jesus never said that gay people sin by being gay, or by marrying a same-sex spouse, or by loving a same-sex spouse. He never said any of this. So with Jesus as the yardstick by which we measure, there is no sin in being gay or in marrying a beloved spouse who happens to be of the same sex...
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    Proper Christian Behavior Does Not Include

    The Bible does not say "homosexual offenders." That is a translation, and a distorted translation.
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    Ye Must Be Born Again

    Is there an absolute truth? I think so. But I think the truth is bigger than any person's ability to grasp as a whole. I think that as humans, our knowledge is always partial. We perceive only parts of the truth, never the whole of truth, and our understanding of truth is always distorted...
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    Ye Must Be Born Again

    Well, except that going off into a theological discourse on what is required for salvation without connecting the discussion to homosexuality makes the whole thread off topic for the sub-forum. Because of that, I will not address your post, as it really is not about the topic of the sub-forum.
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    Today is a sad day

    Of course we are talking about interpretation. Different Christians interpret the Bible differently when it comes to the question of what the Bible says or does not say about same-sex marriage. The Bible says nothing at all about same-sex marriage. You and some others interpret that silence to...
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    Ye Must Be Born Again

    See my response above, which I think addresses this post also. One point I will add in response to this specific post. I think we are not just talking about a scriptural definition of marriage. We are talking about marriage broadly. We are talking about religious marriage as well as civil...
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    Ye Must Be Born Again

    You can make whatever deduction you want, but that doesn't mean it's right. I think you cannot conclude that something is a sin based on the Bible if the Bible never mentions it. The fact that the Bible never mentions same-sex marriage is not evidence that it is a sin. To claim that same-sex...
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    Today is a sad day

    If there is only one interpretation of the Bible, then why are all these Christians interpreting it differently from each other? Why do these debate forums even exist if there is only one interpretation of the Bible? Why are Christians divided into sects if there is only one interpretation of...
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    Today is a sad day

    My ideas are based on a variety of sources of knowledge, including the Bible. You and I simply interpret the Bible differently and understand its meaning differently.