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  1. santiagoamr

    BPD and relationship with God

    Today, I absolutely despise Christ, his mother for giving birth to him. I want to go to hell rather than to be a tool for his Glory. I can't stand him i want to be an Atheist but I can't deny God. The circumstances of my life have put me in a position that i will have to steal in order to care...
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    BTW wheFrom where by the post you replied to would you ever draw a conclusion that I profess one or the other?
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    Thank you so much for you input regarding the Dark Night of the Soul.
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    We also call it Baptism of Desire as well. :)
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    Tradition is what is not contained in Scripture but it is the sacred Word of God. You are falling miserably not only on an illogical paradox, but also on a Theological error. It is simple and I have already expressed it twice in this forum, without Tradition there is no Bible, there is no way to...
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    I apologise, because I did not understand your premise, I believe it is a matter of redaction, since this part seems overly redundant "The Church's tradition, according to the scriptures, ALONE, is more than all Fathers both" Also if your premise is that there are differences between...
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    Like I said it is very laudable, i myself have lost all patience, and for now I am going through what some call the Dark night of the Soul, so my Faith is 99% intact and has been for these past 5 years since it started, but in a cynical form, specially regarding everything material about the...
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    It Comes from Tradition and Theology based on Scripture, from Mathew. It is a cleansing which incorporates the non believer in to the Body of Christ. It is also Just since those who have not heard or known about the Revelation, should be able to become the Body of Christ. I do not believe for...
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    Agreed, Theology is not based on Logic it makes use of it, it's purpose is to understand Revelation, not to create revelation, and can not go against or ignore what is our Creed. Example God declared "I AM" that simple statement is full of meaning and at the time and for centuries it was not...
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    I know you are not, nor I was implying that you were, just trying to clarify your post. You said it well "My comments have been that the Faith, as handed to the Apostles, and passed down to the Church, is the basis of everything. Aka Holy Tradition."
  11. santiagoamr

    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    If we are to follow Christ's example then with the truth there is no tip toe, nor patience, the Truth IS, but your intentions are very laudable.
  12. santiagoamr

    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    The Fathers of the Church were THE FIRS holders of Scripture and Tradition, without there input there is no Bible, Protestant, Orthodox or Catholic "."
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    Numbers brother, numbers, there have been much more Catholics for Theologians to come from.
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    Yes the equivocal view of most Protestant beliefs has been thoroughly established, studied and debunked, by scripture alone, thank you for the reminder. Yes that egotistical view that only Christians can attain salvation is not of my taste and like Christ himself said in the Gospel, one must...
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    Do not be afraid of people accusing you of lying, speak without fear, the truth is with you.
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    And where would your premises come from? You must be in a whole new state of Communion with the Holy Spirit then, so as for him to give you special and unique revelation. How would you even trust that revelation? Because you feel it? There is no initial premise.
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    How can Scripture come before Creed? Scripture was born out of Tradition which is Creed. Without Tradition there is no Scripture. Any other argument would make the belief in scripture redundant, nonsensical and devoid of any value, because You believe in a text because the text tells you you...
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    Illogical Theology is an impossibility, God is Logic, he is the Creator. If you are not speaking about Tradition, and are actually referring to actual Theology and not Tradition or Dogma, then it requires Logic, because Theology is about UNDERSTANDING and you can not understand without Logic.
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    Of course they have trouble with it, Protestants believe that Faith in Christ is what attains them their salvation, Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus states that salvation is much more far reaching and that it is not about Faith or a communion in a community, but about works, that ish how a politheist...
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    Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus…..Outside The Church There Is No Salvation !!!!

    And Baptism of Fire IS Doctrine of the Church.