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I've seen all I need to see about CF tonight. It's a shame that Christians can't find one decent website holding the line against liberalism. The infiltration of the church is pretty much complete.

If you wait until you have a lot of savings, it will never happen. Even if your mother stops taking from you, life will intervene. It's just how life is. I say this as someone who was once in your situation. If you wait for a better time, the better time will never come. Find a friend who needs...

If we are all so afraid of this boy rebelling and running away, let's not pretend the parents will have much latitude to demand overseeing rehearsals.

Do you believe the homosexual lifestyle (active, unrepentant) is a dangerous sin?

Pour water in the bottles and see if you can make firewater. Should I sue my doctor for malpractice?

The issue is whether people believe that homosexuality really is bad. Many modern Christians have begun to put it in the same category as politics. They think it's distasteful but not a sin. If you see homosexuality as serious, soul-destroying lifestyle, the warnings in Scripture sound perfectly...

I don't think anyone is here to say your son can't be led to God through this. Anything is possible. We are just concerned that he will encounter trials along the way and you will have to be sober about those trials.

I can sit back and be happy for you that such music does not bother you. I won't talk you out of it nor condemn you for enjoying it. In the area of music, you have more liberty than some. That's a good thing. If someone else is more sensitive to music, that doesn't mean they are better than you...

That was the link you used to smack Ken Rank back on page 3. Paul handled this issue in 1 Corinthians 8 when he spoke about meat sacrificed to idols. You very much appreciated me bringing it up at the start because you thought it benefitted you. Some believers could eat idol meat because they...

So you don't believe them. You believe they are exaggerating about their preference for a style. Let's go back to Paul in 1 Corinthians. Did he say those sensitive people were simply responding to taste in meat?

This is the third time I'm telling you that no one disagrees with you about secular music overall. This has nothing to do with taste and preference. If a fellow Christian tells you that they can feel spiritual forces at work in instrumental music, do you believe them or not? Not their tastes...

As long as you keep calling them tastes and preferences, you still have no idea what I'm talking about, and it's clear that you think I'm just full of hot air.

Let me say for the second time that no one -- exactly no one -- has ever disagreed with you about secular music in general. This has nothing to do -- nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing -- with secular music as a whole. Please stop bringing up that straw man. Imagine a scenario with me. Say...

No, lyrics are not the whole point of Christian testimony. If you happen to believe, as some on this thread have asserted, that the music itself is every bit as influential, then you cannot slap Christian lyrics on wicked music. It doesn't make an ounce of difference how Biblical the lyrics are...

Again, you keep calling them subjective because you cannot imagine what other people are feeling from the music. I would encourage you to spend some time studying instrumental music. Not just vague examples of someone humming a melody. I mean deep, complex music that conveys emotion with no...

Let us take lyrics completely out of the equation. Say we are talking about instrumentals. No lyrics to give you any obvious indication of what the band is saying. Can you listen to instrumental music and be affected by it, either in a positive or negative way? Music is more than just a vehicle...

The father in the prodigal son story did allow his son to end up starving and homeless.

No one should legislate on behalf of anyone else. Let me try again for the third or fourth time. If a person is sensitive toward music, and is able to pick up cultural or spiritual factors conveyed in music that go unnoticed by you, it simply means they are more sensitive. You can tolerate that...

Once again, we are not talking about secular styles just because they're secular. A secular person can set out to create beautiful, positive music, and it will be beautiful. This is a question of SPECIFIC styles that were developed and promoted for the express purpose of inducing negativity in a...

You are still coming from the viewpoint that legislation is an arbitrary act against preferences. If you see music as all fun and games, none of it will bother you. If you see musical styles as deliberate forms of expression driven by cultural and spiritual factors, you will hear those factors...