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How about giving the $27 million to starving children, or to Bible translation, or third world missionaries. Better than using it to tell untruths.

Hi everyone! It's been ages since I've been here. Thought I'd drop in quickly and see the fallout of the new Creation museum ;) I voted (C) because I'm definitely convinced about it, but (B) is possibly true too. (I think both B and C can be simultaneously true).

You're right, all that scripture quoting has an unsettling feel to it... Like each side is trying to trump the other by being more holy. It sounds like AiG and CMI began splitting up under tension back in 2005, but initially were able to give the public the image of an amicable split because...

Well there you go. It finally comes to the surface. I'm glad CMI is now doing the honourable thing and being open about it all. Let's all hope that the 2 organisations can resolve their differences in a Christlike manner.

A very good analysis, IMO. And so the final authority is not Scripture, as is claimed, but rather the individual's own personal opinion of what Scripture is saying. This sort of approach, "me and my Bible" (as rmwilliams has put it elsewhere) in total isolation from external reality, is where...

Professor Sam Berry is a prominent Christian biologist who has written a number of books about Christianity and evolution. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.J._Berry Henri Blocher is a theologian who has written probably the best Genesis commentary this century (oops, last century) which also...

Thanks for that clarification shrenren! Clearly, the problem we have here is differing views of "sola scriptura" and scripture as final authority. YECs have the extreme view that scripture is the final authority even in science, and therefore all authorities external to scripture must without...

Okay, so AiG does not want its material to be subject to peer review. Can we necessarily conclude from this that AiG is abandoning scientific input altogether and continuing as a "purely religious phenomena"? They're still making scientific-sounding arguments aren't they? (or attempting to at...

What does a pastor need to be "qualified" to teach the Bible, in your opinion? Should it bother creationists that the entire staff of AiG/CMI are theologically untrained?

Is this actually true? Is AiG really abandoning science altogether, or are you just speculating (along with the rest of us)?

I agree the split has no bearing on the theology of creation. However, I still feel justified in asking the question. Let me explain. If AiG & CMI manage to successfully go their separate ways without any drama, then well and good. Problem is, this is not what appears to be happening. First...

Many of the regulars here will know that Answers in Genesis split up in early 2006. The US and UK branches retained the name AiG, while the Australian, New Zealand, South African and Canadian branches were renamed as Creation Ministries International (CMI). AiG stopped circulating Creation...

Amen! I think I am similar. One of the reasons origins theology so interests me is that I was once such a strong believer in YECism. I don't think origins can ever be a non-issue in the scientific and industrialised West. Especially where the church has so often declared its teaching as...

What I meant by "writing off Luther" is that Mark Kennedy is discounting, or ignoring, the opinion of Luther who (AFAIK) believed in consubstantiation. Not that Luther is necessarily right, but his view surely carries weight and shouldn't be dismissed so quickly even by those who sincerely think...

Hi FranciscanJ, I, like you, was once a "hardcore YEC" who switched to Theistic Evolution. In fact, I think quite a few of the TEs here were once YECs in the past. Please don't feel alarmed about being in a "confused, transitory phase". We are all on a road of learning and discovery, and none...

Mark, these sorts of statements only illustrate the point I've been making. YECs as a rule seem to assume that a biblical teaching is totally clear just because it seems so to them, according to their interpretation, and they refuse to admit any other possibility. Yet not all Christians agree...

Thank you for asking. I was trying to be tricky. It seems that whenever TEs say: "this terrain formed by uniformitarian processes acting over long periods of time", YECs reply: "no, the global flood could have done it" . Problem is, that argument doesn't work on Mars. So how do creationists...

Well well, looks like we've found another fundamental difference between YECs and TEs. Or perhaps THE fundamental difference? YECs believe the Bible is absolutely clear about everything. TEs believe the Bible can be unclear about some things. I suspect this is just another way of saying: YECs...

:bow: I swear, rmwilliams could be quoting out of a PhD paper. All of his posts are gems.

It's been a few days :D I'm very curious to know what the **** are!!!