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    honest questions to gay christians

    these are great questions. This has a few reasons, but mostly because gays did not have their own separate sexuality group. This is why only the actions are frowned upon, like in romans 1. We struggle to overcome the thinking of the flesh. Crucify the flesh daily, it seems to be that we are...
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    Why are some people gay? (2)

    He actually overcame death (hell), which in turn as a promise to His followers grants them the same. He doesn't destroy death until His second coming, and in that it is described as anything but peaceable.
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    Is the Bible correct?

    This is not a simple answer, obviously. There are several reasons that we can see in the text. One reason is because the israelites needed some sort of structure in their society, another is because God shows us that we all fall short in one way or another to His glory, so it better puts us into...
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    Is the Bible correct?

    It's not bizarre. I don't know if you made that reply in order to keep the argument going, but I'll answer it anyhow. Salvation lies in Christ alone. No matter what we do, we cannot save ourselves. We are all sinners. However with our faith in Christ, we are given the gift of the Holy Spirit...
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    Is the Bible correct?

    I care about the truth. I don't care what gays or anyone else does in their privacy. Understand that my issue is with what is being preached here, not the people it's targeted at. ps. You should reconsider supporting the troops, they kill people so we don't have to. And if they didn't...
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    Is the Bible correct?

    What matters to me is the truth. And it's being distorted by those making claims in an effort of justification. I care that they (and more importantly, those who come here for information rather than bantering) are told the truth rather than what their itching ears want to hear. Good...
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    Is the Bible correct?

    Simple, its part 1 of the greatest commandments. Loving God entails loving what He loves, and that is obedience to His rules. Which is incorrect, if one gains understanding of God's will through scripture. Loving God means following God, and following God means following His rules and...
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    Is the Bible correct?

    The law still exists, christians are however not held under it because of Christ's fulfillment of it. We are sanctified through Him alone. You conveniently left out the first commandment. An interesting example can be made of groups who do not balance the two, you have those who only love...
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    Is the Bible correct?

    Hi Wiccan_Child, good to see you. There's no such thing as 'the' sin of sodom, there were multitudes of sins, and the level of depravity is shown by the various actions of the inhabitants there. Um, Jesus never said that we were to ever stop upholding the law. The difference is that our...
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    Is this true?

    Glad you brought this up, as I've had no one on the other side of this argument do so. Given that the ancients who wrote scripture did not conceptualize sexual orientation (seems to be more of a modern thing), then the only thing they would condemn is the homosexual action. Since they did not...
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    Is this true?

    Last time I checked, God hasn't allowed any northerners to eat grits as an act of judgment. If you think the certain things you disagree with were included to control people, then whats the point in being Christian at all? Unfortunately being a Christian entails much suffering and hardship...
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    Is this true?

    First of all, don't condemn anyone, let God handle that. Most threads involve these different passages that you mentioned. On Sodom: Sodom was guilty of many things, one highlight is the polar opposite of hospitality. And by the incident with the men of the city and the angels, its just an...
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    Is it accurate to call the bible the 'Word of God'?

    Sure, what about those without a church/denomination? Blame it on cultural upbringing perhaps? It just seems that the confusion card is played here, yet the other (more important) parts of scripture, regarding salvation, etc, are not questioned or confusing one bit.
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    Is it accurate to call the bible the 'Word of God'?

    to put it into context then we'd have to understand what corinth was like during the time it was written, as to understand paul's focus. Also we can take apart the rest of the verses that are on the same topic to help rule out what it is not. It may not give you the exact letter for letter of...
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    Why are some people gay? (2)

    I suggest only that people align themselves with the truth rather than what their 'group' already believes. And being informed when doing so. [/FONT] support , yes. praise? depends. Praise goes out on an individual basis, not on a group basis, because not every person in a group reflects...
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    Why are some people gay? (2)

    when dealing with applicability of sin, I like to read through romans 14. Although some people attempt to discredit paul's authority, this chapter of his writing actually seems to help both sides of the argument.
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    Why are some people gay? (2)

    get a concordance, or learn the original languages, or both. you could say the same about anyone who wasn't born perfect, anyone who has a birth defect, or anyone who was mistreated as a child (or unborn child). God is sovereign, there is nothing that has or ever will happen that is outside of...
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    Why are some people gay? (2)

    They didn't have the OT compiled neatly into a book, but I'm sure they read just as much of it as we do today (and more actually, alot of those 'midrash' type books I'm sure were the religious fan-fare of their day-left behind series anyone?) Did Jesus go against OT laws, or against man's...
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    So, can we be free from hate?

    Hello Phinehas2, From what I've studied on this, interestingly enough, many jewish rabbi's console this issue by saying that Lot was suffering the effects of the depravity of the city, and this is why he made such a rash decision. Personally, I have a hard time understanding the mind of an...
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    So, can we be free from hate?

    theres nothing in scripture that supports any sort of consentual homosexual sex either. To throw another angle at it, ever considered the ramnification of assisted suicide, or sadomasochism? If one has the Spirit, he may or may not be convicted of various things. It seems to vary person to...