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  1. Ethan_Fetch

    What is the history of your church?

    I have noticed that the Bishops of Rome, while not explicitly repudiating Papal Supremacy, have, in the last forty years or so really moved away from talking much about it. When I combine this with the ecumenical efforts of the saintly men we have been blessed with (including the current Pope)...
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    What is the history of your church?

    My church started when God created Adam. But then, that's when every church started.
  3. Ethan_Fetch

    Apostolic Succession of Scandinavian Lutheranism

    Great answer and thanks for weighing in. That's pretty much exactly what I had been taught as well. May God richly bless our Lutheran brethren, by the way.
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    Ascension Thursday

    If your church celebrated Ascension yesterday then it was a Holy Day of Obligation and there is no choice. Dioceses may differ but it's either on Thursday or it's on Sunday, there's no option for either as afar as I can see.
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    A lineage of Popes in unbroken succession

    I've never liked the Shebna/Eliakim type for Peter for a couple of reasons: Eliakim is not chosen by the ecclesia or even by Shebna (who, it turns out was a bad fellow), rather, he was chosen directly by God and installed as Shebna's successor. And this is not a normal succession, Shebna is...
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    Ascension Thursday

    This from Adoremus:
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    Ascension Thursday

    Bishops can relax the rules of fasting during lent when St. Patrick's Day falls on a Friday so that people can have corned beef and cabbage. They can also move HDO's to the nearest Sunday excepting of course the biggies like Christmas and Assumption. Although maybe they can even move Assumption.
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    Ascension Thursday

    Sunday in the Archdiocese of Detroit.
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    Homosexual Debate Forum and Classes of Christians

    If we use these words to describe people it is only by extension relative to what they believe. Their beliefs are liberal (or conservative, or moderate, or whatever) so we ay that they are liberal (or conservative, or moderate, or whatever). I don't think the intent is to categorize the person...
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    Jesus Without the Doctrine of Atonement?

    Well, there are a number of theories of the Atonement. You seem to be talking about the Anselmian theory of vicarious or substitutionary atonement. To be quite honest, this is something I struggle with as well. The Bible seems clearly to speak in terms of salvation from judgment being...
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    A lineage of Popes in unbroken succession

    I'm not sure it's a question of being in charge. We're conditioned by more strident Catholic voices to see everything in terms of a consolidated and authoritative magisterium with one man at the helm. I am not at all sure that it was like that in first century Rome (in fact I am rather...
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    A lineage of Popes in unbroken succession

    We don't really know that at all. In the Bible the titles of Bishop and Elder are used to describe the same office. See Titus 1:5-9 I agree. Well, it was part of the whole argument since the main idea I was responding to was the conclusion that Peter ordained Linus to succeed him who, in...
  13. Ethan_Fetch

    Catholics/EO/OO say something nice about your Protestant brethren.

    Baptist women have very inspirational hair. ;)
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    Kirk Cameron Nightline Debate

    I completely agree with you, my answers would be, respectively, No, a desire for autonomy (Pride, Rebellion) and Yes.
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    Open and Respectful Discussion between Catholics and Protestants (2)

    But you're making a number of assumptions here: 1. That worship must be "biblical" (whatever that means). 2. That all "religion" is wrong (whatever that is). 3. That what you are doing with your faith is not "religion" but something else.
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    Kirk Cameron Nightline Debate

    Thanks Christina, But the author doesn't interact with Scripture at all. He does a good job of pointing out the consistent position of the fathers but he does nothing to reconcile their perspective with what the Bible says about God actively bringing about instances which, upon experience, can...
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    Open and Respectful Discussion between Catholics and Protestants (2)

    Reading this gave me another thought: It has been often been pointed out that one of the things the Reformation brought about was movement of focus in the liturgy from the Sacrament to the Sermon. For many churches the main point of going to church is to hear the preacher preach. In the...
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    Kirk Cameron Nightline Debate

    At the risk of derailment, I'll ask: Why is it impossible that God may have created evil? I am not asking this to bait you. It is something that I, as a former Calvinist struggle with. The Bible does clearly say that He creates calamity and brings evil and judgment upon people, that He kills...
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    A lineage of Popes in unbroken succession

    True but it would imply a different perspective on the episcopacy than we may be accustomed to assuming. I think that all we really know is that the Episcopacy as a distinct office in the church, while a very early development, did not come into place at the same time everywhere and that...