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okay - I was baptized catholic for reference - but look - what's the difference between there being NO GOD AT ALL and a God Who creates a cell and let's the cell "evolve" into His Image through a series of mutations over a billion + years??? there is none! like by the theistic evolution...

I'm giving up the following: Red Meat Poultry Breads/Potatoes/Pasta/Grains (except flax) Processed (non-fruit) sugars. Leaves me with: Fish, Alcohol, Dairy Products, Fruit & Most vegetables.... BOOYA! this should be the hardest one yet!

You know what else is totally of God? when i pray every night to God. I repeat - I will never again pray to mary. and I will not confess to a man, it doesn't matter that he's an instrument of God. I'm as much an instrument of God as any priest.

sorry this is JPII's quote - I paraphrased - from here section 4. and how do you feel they are compatible?

no - in fact it's the opposite in science. you can't disprove anything's existence, you can only prove hypotheses.

greetings to America's Hat - CANADA!!!

umm... you ever taken a math class and they say "show your work??? " could you do that? your answers don't really stand alone.

not arguing with you - but me and numerology just don't get along well.

both intelligent AND informative! thanks!!!! I'm glad you were a part of this.... :thumbsup:

first i thought there was a language barrier, but you're from the US - so how don't you understand this????

okay address the following - * do you believe (macro)evolution and intelligent design are compatible * how do you feel about JPII saying "Evolution is no mere theory" * how do you explain it away if you just don't believe in it. I incidentally do NOT believe in (macro) evolution, but I just...

no no - i get it, it's not semantics - it's proper english. like that whole alanis morisette song is just coincidences, that just irritates the expletive out of me. Irony is like if i was a writer, and I hated Kurt Vonnegut as a person, and I wrote a book and it just so happened to be the...

BAM! shut this thread down. Gay Marriage by it's definition is an oxymoron- Marriage is a sacrament invented BY RELIGION, and you (the government) are attempting to REDEFINE MY RELIGION which the government is not allowed to do. the problem occurs when the government has to recognize marriage...

not to be a jerk - but that's not irony - it's just a conincidence.

that's really well done. props !

can a mod please close this thread? it has spun wildly out of control and wasn't even remotely true to begin. this isn't even up for speculation!

so is catholocism. I contest that a man who statistically speaking has a 1 in ten chance of having molested a kid is more able to convey my sins to God than I am. and I refuse to ever say another hail mary.

how is this thread even still going?