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I think the Bible is about Jesus, Repentence is a part of the story. It's not to minimize the importance, but no the books main message is Jesus Christ.

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Why didn't Jesus add the part about Baptism and the Eucharist into the parable?

The True Vine parable Here is the cast of the parable. Jesus: The Vine God The Father: The Vinedresser The Branches: People Fruit-Bearing Branches: True Disciples Non-Fruit-Beating Branches: False Disciples The reason we know that it's false Disciples and not those that had just fallen away...

Can you explain this part of your post to me please? Is this what all Catholics believe?

First let me start off by posting this scripture Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. I believe the answer to your question is the distinction between what we call The Great White Throne (Judgement of non believers) and the Judgement Seat of...

I appreciate the help, but I feel we both probably have competely different views on what John 15:1-17 means.

Certianly running up to God and demanding anything is fruitless and certainly showing of a wrong heart because the only thing we deserve is hell and eternal punishment. However I find a distinction in that and compete reliance on God's word that he WILL save us. If we truly trust him, and are...

I personally think we can know if we have or have not been saved. I also think there are in some specific cases when we know that someone is not. Matthew 7:15-20 15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by...

Can you show me in scripture where it says that works perfect and complete justification?

Bad spell check. It's meant to say RC or Roman Catholic.

Ok let me try and make this a little clearer. A question for my RC friends. How is one justified?

Ok, maybe you can clear some of this up for me then. 1. Is it trust in Christ alone that saves? 2. Are good works only a result of our salvation? 3. What are some examples of good works?

That's why I've opened up this dialog :thumbsup: I'm just waiting for some Catholics to come in and explain it to me.

Rather then believe that works are a showing of our faith, they believe that good works are required. We would both agree that faith without works is dead, however we differ on what that means. I believe true faith will produce works, and if you've no works you've shown you have no faith in the...

Can you explain what you see the difference as?

I don't understand how they can believe this and not see it as Legalism. Especially the 10 commandments part. Maybe one of them could explain it to us.

Required: Must be present in order for salvation to occur. The difference being instead of true faith producing works, one would be trusting in Christ but also their own good works to save.

Gotcha, so it's kinda word play to make it seem like we believe the same thing when we actually don't?

Faith: Trust in Jesus Christ as our substitution, taking the punishment we deserve so we don't have to. Works: Anything that we do. Specifically, I'm speaking of Works that some believe help justify us before God.