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Mines got to be pretty obvious ^_^ .

? Did I miss something ? Completely agree. Ive seen a LOT of cases where the wifes withdrawing from her husband physically is a direct result of his abuse and neglect and a list of other 'misuses' of his wife. In most of the cases Ive seen, the husband then starts to act like a spoiled child who...

ouch. I noticed youre new here, Bellarose8....are these accusations founded ? Not saying they arent, but Id hope that statements this condemning are based on facts.. .

^_^ Agreed

;) I have to do the same thing because some folks spend WAY too much time reading BETWEEN the lines rather than just taking WORDS at face value as they are intended. Way too many psychoanalysts around for my liking. Just the facts ma'am. Leave the analysis of my emotional state at the door ^_^

The plain answer is 'yes'. If she is 'informing' you of something like this its paramount to your 'informing' her that you'll be out with the guys all night...WHERE youre at is irrelevant if its being done in a way that is damaging to the relationship and the family unit. Now if she came to you...

Ive already studied the 'agunah' thing, Shaina :) Thanks for the link, but Ive already taken it into account and dont draw the same conclusions you seem to.

I understand where youre coming from Shaina, I really do. In fact a man I really respect believes like you do, that divorce and putting away arent interchangeable, but Im sorry I just dont believe that thats the case at all. Divorce with the writ is clearly what God intended if one is going to...

Obviouslyl thats the case, of which any of us who ARE studied are already quite familiar. However it is irrelevant as those who interpreted the original into greek very clearly understood the INTENT of Christs words and so picked an equivelant Greek word to convey Christs meaning My article...

Jesus is condemning about frivolous putting away, with or without the writ of divorce. Actually they are. "divorce" = "putting away" with the writ of divorce as Moses required POST Deuteronomy 24:1-4. The ACT itself is exactly the same in both scenarios :) Wrong, friend. *IF* that error were...

Which in the mans case only goes to prove that it ISNT the taking of a second living wife that was the issue, but the hardhearted casting away of an innocent wife TO marry another that actually was the problem. However, in the womans world, no she was not permitted to have more than a single...

Based on the Herod/Herodias thing, it would seem that it wasnt just pharisees either. It also seems that the large part of Israel thought that they should be able to divorce without much cause, if any. Jesus' own disciples being surprised by His response in the matter only seems to confirm that...

Definitely vote for that one.

What I will agree with is the best marriages Ive seen personally have been where the wife has seemingly felt like she did 'belong' to her husband...that she was 'his'. I assume the reverse is also true in her own heart...that he is 'hers' as well. Most of the problem marriages Ive seen dont...

Maybe we should do that again ;)

Actually, A, if one looks at Exodus 21, before the writ of divorce was given, the wife had a far broader range of reasons she was given to leave the marriage than is ever given to the man. So if we're going to distort the scriptures intent, then the wife CAN leave the marriage for far more...

Ive pretty much decided to stay out of the marriage forums, but I happened in today and saw this thread. Sister, If God did speak to you then you have nothing to fear. He has given me instruction in the same way you describe a few times in my life. One time long ago He did and I didnt obey and...

I'll stick to the bible and what it teaches :)

Please explain how, exactly, that its 'very nasty'. Im very interested in understanding how it is. There is a difference between personal opinion and preference and a little thing I like to call 'fact'. So it would be nice if you could provide some scientific data to support the assertion that...