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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: I'm working out of state today and tomorrow, so I won't be able to address your most recent comments until either Thursday night or Friday morning (Lord willing, of course).
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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: Your post did NOT show that "the foundation" was "hidden", nor could any post of yours show such. What was truly "hidden" was that the Gentiles should be FELLOW-HEIRS (Yoo-hoo..."FELLOW-HEIRS" with whom?) with the believing Jews and no longer strangers from the covenants of promise or...
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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: Blah, blah, blah. I just finished addressing this regurgitated garbage of yours in my short post to Elder 111. Take your "smoke and mirrors" elsewhere. The "foundation" was NOT "hidden". As usual, you have no idea whatsoever as to what it is you're going on about. Now, when will you...
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    When did the church start?

    <edit>Frogster's truncated quote from Ephesians chapter 3 IS NOT even talking about a "hidden foundation". Rather, what was "hidden" was that the Gentiles should be fellow-heirs with the commonwealth of Israel which preceded them, for we read: "For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus...
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    Name of "Jesus"

    cubinity: Here's what you said: The "bigotry" that you spoke of was in direct relation to the so-called "inconsiderate vocabulary that utterly disregards the sensitivities of our pluralistic neighbors" and that "inconsiderate vocabulary" was the use of B.C., so spare me your melodrama and...
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    When did the church start?

    Elder 111: The Greek word that is translated as "church" (it would have been better translated as "congregation" or "assembly" and was in earlier translations of the Bible) in the New Testament is "ekklesia" and basically means "called out ones". If you want to see its usage in the New Testament...
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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: I'm not "playing" at all. I've addressed all of your comments/questions FROM SCRIPTURE and will continue to do so. You, on the other hand, have repeatedly evaded my questions and we both know why this is, don't we? Sure, we do. Foundation - Definition and More from the Free...
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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: Have you ever even read the Bible? Seriously, have you? "Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same...
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    Adam & Eve and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil

    addo: Personally, I believe that Adam and Eve only learned about evil from partaking of the forbidden fruit. Afterall, they already knew and walked with God Who is good and in a place that He had already deemed to be "very good", so I think that they had a pretty "good" idea as to what...
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    When did the church start?

    Lion King: Thanks for the clarification.
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    When did the church start?

    Lion King: That's fine, but you do recognize that not all Jews (or Gentiles, for that matter) have been/will be saved because of their rejection of Jesus Christ, don't you? That's basically what I'm asking...
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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: And what, according to your heresy, "time and space" would this be? Peter said, as per my previous quote, that this "chief corner stone" was CHOSEN OF GOD (I Peter 2:4). When do you suppose that GOD CHOSE HIM? Hmmmm? Careful, now...before you get into any further heresy. Jesus Christ...
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    When did the church start?

    Lion King: I was merely seeking for clarification of what you meant by "(and the rest of Israel)". I'm still somewhat confused as to what you believe. Could you please clarify what you mean by "the people of Israel (The Messiah - Jesus Christ)"? Are you saying that Jesus Christ is the true...
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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: You can grin all you'd like to, but the laugh (not that this is funny) is still on you. You keep on overlooking THE FACT that JESUS CHRIST is the chief cornerstone upon which everything else is built. It matters not that the apostles or prophets are being "built upon" BECAUSE ALL OF...
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    When did the church start?

    Lion King: Sorry, but that still doesn't cut it. There were Israelites who sought to be justified through the keeping of the law and others who saw the law as their schoolmaster to lead them to Christ. There needs to be a distinction between the two. "For he is not a Jew, which is one...
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    When did the church start?

    Lion King: I don't mean to unnecessarily (?) nitpick, but that depends on what you mean by "(and the rest of Israel)". Sad to say, there are many naturally born Jews who will not be part of God's kingdom because of their rejection of Jesus Christ. "The Israel of God", according to scripture...
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    When did the church start?

    Elder 111: Of course, you are correct. Sad to say, however, some folks will just never see it...having taken their eyes off of Christ and fixed their gaze elsewhere. Pity.
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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: Sheina is in grievous error (and I haven't even touched upon her apparent belief in that whole pre-tribulation rapture heresy) and so are you. Wrong, again. Scripture says that the law only served UNTIL THE SEED CAME. "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of...
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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: Why are you smiling? Because you've further proven my point? YES, JESUS CHRIST IS THE CORNERSTONE AND THAT CORNERSTONE WAS LAID BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. Sorry to shout, but some of you are a little dull of hearing. Abel built upon this cornerstone. Enoch built upon this...
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    When did the church start?

    Frogster: "Will build", and...? If I told you that "I will go to work today", would you take that to mean that I've never gone to work before? Sheesh. Anyhow, you might want to ask sheina to post links to her DIRECT QUOTES FROM OTHERS (or some sort of reference) in the future. That whole...