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I don't have a copy of the NWT anymore since I switched Bible programs. Plus I don't speak with many JW's that much. Seems I live in a JW vacuum in my current area. :sorry: I never studied what they believed about the resurrection. I usually talk with them about who Jesus is. See, I...

In the sense of the theological debate in this area, those who believe that the wicked never die do not believe in "unconditional immortality" They believe all people never die. Well, for one it is the way you look at a passage that determines how you interpret it. Let me paraphrase what this...

Ok, so where would I fall in this? I was an atheist and studied and came away with the concept of conditional immortality, it was after I understood this did I go out to find a fellowship and most didn't agree with me. While I respect several of the other denominations out there it seems only...

I have them but they are part of a larger diagram which I will attach they are Titus 3:4-7 and Eph 2:8-9.

I have a friend of mine who never had a formal education in Greek and he can point out many things in translations that I miss. I would put him up against many students of the language. Reading and learning vocabulary are great ways to keep oneself immersed in the language and it will help...

While I do believe people can be self taught in languages, I think a formal setting is best. It is one thing to mechanically translate a passage, it is another thing to truly understand what you are translating. There are nuances in translation you don't get from a lexicon or concordance...

I think one of the biggest reasons for the different denominations is because when they read the bible they use different context. We make assumptions on who the target audience is and what the letters were addressing and that weighs heavily on how we determine what the text means. So...

Each type of translation has a certain philosophy behind it, you can sometimes read this from the translators in the forward of the bible. This way you can know what the intent is of the translators and helps you understand how to use this translation. Take the KJV for instance, it was a...

Here is how I see things. In many ways Church is like Government. There is a hierarchal structure of people who govern those below. In Government we elect people who we hope will serve our best interest, but this doesn't always happen. Every major election the government swings and this...

A dangerous saying.

This is talking about the same thing and we see the weeping and gnashing of teeth happening when the wicked see the saints, this doesn't happen when they are in "outer darkness" Also the gnashing of teeth isn't a term for torture but a term meaning extreme anger or hostility. It is a Hebrew...

Ok, there still seems to be a miscommunication. Again, I said, we ALL agree on the meaning of the terms "everlasting" and "eternal". They mean an unending duration. I have said this many times now. I didn't contrast nor did I give the two terms different meanings. As I pointed out in a...

There was no need to point out they were the same word, the post I responded to didn't make reference to the original languages but to an English translation and it was to that I was responding. I pointed out they my understanding of "everlasting" and "eternal" would be the same has the...

See of this link helps any Unicode Polytonic Greek Keyboard Map

This seems like it is part of a previous thought, I will at the onset say, I disagree with its premise. These really have nothing to do with the thread, but for the sake of argument lets say those symbols do represent what you say they do, the one below doesn't necessarily follow. Why could...

αἰώνιον can mean many things based on how it is used. The BDAG has these three main definitions: pert. to a long period of time, long ago pert. to a period of time without beginning or end, eternal pert. to a period of unending duration, without end It...

There are interpretation issues but for the most part I think it is on the side of the Traditionalist who have the problems. Most of the time it is the understanding of what words mean or represent which cause the problems. Lets look at the passages you provided but did not expound upon...

Calluna may not be watching this thread anymore because the last post was about 2 months ago.

What most preachers try to do is extrapolate a lesson from these passages and at times they really don't go together. Now the problem at Colossae can be confusing if one doesn't know who is involved. The Colossians are Christians and are being influenced by what I think are Asthetic Christian...

While I personally think understanding Greek and Hebrew is great, I don't think one has to know one lick of those languages to understand the Bible as translated into one's native language. I know people who read the KJV, NKJV, ESV, NET, NASB, and such and are very strong in God's word and how...