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NB, "Well Christina, are you challenging me in the above missive? " No, I hadn't read any of your posts. I was going off what I know in general about people's approaches to this kind of thing. Christina

I don't know the answer, but consider this: Any other Christian who tells you it is definately wrong because it is associated with idols and demons, etc, should be challenged as to whether they have a Christmas Tree as christmas, and have easter eggs at Easter, coz these were pagan in origin...

Addendum, If you check out Acts 15, you'll see the stipulations that the Jerusalem Church sent to the Gentiles. one of them was to refrain from sexual immorality. How do you think the Jer Church defined sexual immorality? By the Old Testament, of course! No mention of masturbation there...

Of Course I'm talking about things that aren't sinful! Coming back with 'oh! so we can commit murder then!' is an example of extreme views. Black and white thinking. Take alcohol for example. If I have a couple of glasses of red wine in an evening, that's fine. If I drink 5, then it's not...

Consider this: There are 613 commandments in the Old Testament Law. Not one is about masturbation. If masturbation were a sin, would not there have been an OT commandment not to do it? Just something to consider Christina

"I have a desire to please God, and to honor him with my body. I have examined what I think when I touch, and I know it's not right. For me, I am ABSOLUTELY certain it is sin. And being a man, and talking with other men, sexual stimulation comes from sexual thoughts. And for the unmarried...

Again, Scripture is being twisted to condemn masturbation. Paul was writing about boyfriends and girlfriends. It's better for them to marry, if they cannot keep their hands off each other. It has NOTHING to do with masturbation at all. Christina

Dave, This is Young's Literal Translation of 1 Cor 6 "15 Have ye not known that your bodies are members of Christ? having taken, then, the members of the Christ, shall I make [them] members of an harlot? let it be not! 16 have ye not known that he who is joined to the harlot is one...

Keiler, What causes babies to be made? Lust! Christina

"Principles: 1. Your body is meant for the Lord, not sexual immorality." Yes indeed. And Paul states that we should not have sex with prostitutes as an explanation of what he means. "2. You were bought at a price, honor God with your body, sexual immorality is a sin against your body...

"1 Corinthians 6: 17-20 But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is...

"1 Corinthians 6: 12-13 "Everything is permissible for me"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"--but I will not be mastered by anything. "Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"--but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual...

Dave, I'll make several responses, here's my first. "3. Do not even have a HINT of sexual immorality among you. " You quote this about masturbation, yet you think oral sex is okay, and contraception. I find that VERY hypocritical. 'If you're married, anything goes, but if you're...

Dave, If you want me to answer this, you must answer these questions first. 1. Is oral sex in marriage sexually immoral? 2. Is contraception in marriage sexually immoral, and also an affront to God's providence in providing children? 3. Is masturbation by one's spouse, sexually...

That's coz you're not a Gynaecologist Ray! :P Christina

It is your OPINION that masturbation is a form of sexual immorality. Christina

Scripture tells us to do all things in moderation. Quite frankly, many of the posts in this thread, remind me of the way the Pharisees used to debate the OT. You're making salvation out to be something that is FAR from grace. You are giving men and women burdens too heavy too bear, and...

Hi Guys, I think a possible biological reason why guys need to touch, is to prevent premature [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] when he gets a wife. By masturbating, you desensitive yourself. If a guy never masturbated, well, on his honeymoon, he may end up being a bit of a disappointment to his...

A woman? Without her, man is, helpless!

Hi, From your example, I would leave the church. The book of James makes it clear that the rich should not look down on the poor. Who did Jesus minister to? The rich Pharisees, or the poor? Didn't Paul make enormous efforts to get the Gentile churches to donate to the poor church in...