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I can't speak for tall73, but the Sabbathkeeping groups I've been part of mostly do not practice daily worship as a church body; they leave that up to individuals.:) I have also observed that Sabbathkeepers mostly are not content to let church leaders dictate their own habits and observances...

Anduril, would it surprise you to learn that some of us have attended nude worship services? Or that the Holy Spirit has been just as much in evidence at them as at any "textiled" worship service I've ever been to? Many of us have found that God really doesn't care what we wear; it's the...

Not an angel necessarily, astrios; just a person who, unlike most of us, fulfilled his potential as a human. :)

Harold and Maude.

I don't know. Those were the "golden years" of television, of Leave It To Beaver and Father Knows Best; but it was also the time of Rebel Without A Cause and West Side Story and the Beat poets such as Jack Kerouac and William Burroughs. They weren't nearly as "ideal" a time as a lot of people...

And how many of those children were abused or neglected?:(

There may be some of that in my thinking--but a deeper undercurrent is joy in the creative gifts God has given so many of us, including young men and women. The trouble is, if you throw out "Christian rock," by the same logic you must throw out every musical innovation since the French monks...

Something just occurred to me. Since rock music, like all the other major stylistic innovations in popular music in the 20th century, originated with black performers, is it possible that many of the original arguments against using it in church were a cover for racist sentiments? (Please...

Of course they are! :thumbsup: But, sadly, not all Christians recognize them as such.

And you don't think that the bawdy language wasn't designed to release inhibitions? Besides, you can get some powerful driving rhythms by pounding mugs on a trestle table.:D Seriously, medieval music was probably much more colorful, rhythmically complex and compelling than the pale...

Yes. Many of these rock songs have good, Scripture-based lyrical messages. That's a question we all must answer for ourselves, but if the Lord controls both the music and the person, what is the problem? Yes! I have attended "Christian rock" concerts that turned into revival meetings...

Splayd, your story is an indictment of modern Christianity. Unfortunately, it's an old song: The people in authority have always been more conservative in their musical tastes than the people wanting to make music. But hey, if you're ever in Denver, let me know and perhaps we can praise the...

He may not change--but ways of praising Him have sure evolved. (Oh no! The E-word!:D) Or would you have us go back to Gregorian chants? (Again, I love chant--as one music genre among many.:))

That's not quite what I said. I said that musical abilities come from God. What a composer does with them is up to him/her. And even if the composer had no intention to glorify God with what s/he wrote, the end result can still do just that, if the music is good and true. (Don't ask me to...

I'm here too, but I haven't had time to do any translating etc. lately. :(

How good was that?:wave:

Scandia, the teen years are precisely when many future naturists get interested in the subject--and not always because of prurience. :)

Very appropriate.:yawn::D

Of course. And thank you.:hug:

Jim, that's all very well, but when I say something that actually hurts someone, I apologize. As for me, I have prayed and asked God to show me if I have said anything here that I shouldn't have, and I still feel I have nothing to apologize for. Perhaps my anger seemed inappropriate, but as I...