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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Van, Eph 2:8, True Van, but if one paraphrases it, it should be much more accurate than the way you do with all the alones which is unscriptural to begin with. See James 2:24. But I suppose it fits your view, which is OK. It is not a distortion of your position at all. It is simply the...
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    Calvinism...."he cannot sin, because he is born of God"

    Bulldog, even the unregenerate is free from the bondage of death and sin. That is what Christ accomplished on the Cross, freed mankind from the bondage of death and sin through Adam. That is why as a regenerate, a beleiver we need not live IN sin, willingly sin, practice sin. We can with the...
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Van, The word "salvation" is an inclusive term of the whole plan of salvation. It is because the goal of Christ's work is the salvation of man which was all along the purpose of his creation. But Romans 4:5 is not even addressing the specific, the salvation of man. It is referring to...
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    From what did Jesus save us?

    Verismo, Saved us from the bondage to death and sin.
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Van, OK, Van, I apologize, you did mention Luther. But saying just that does not say much. All the debate I hear regarding what Luther meant and many individuals disagreeing with Him, it does not seem he got it right either. You describe yourself well. Never said you needed to address the...
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Brother In Christ, Yes, many were not abiding IN Christ. You cannot be saved outside of Christ. The fact that they were eating and drinking the cup unworthily, they became sick and some died. When one eats unworthily, they are eating and drinking to their condemnation. To say that they did not...
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Van, It seems every time you cannot explain a point outside of your personal view you restort to innuendo, false statements to take the focus off that fact. You have shown absolutely nothing to show that anyone other than you believe as you do. Twice I gave you the opportunity to show that even...
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Brother In Christ, [I Cor 1:26-29 1:26 This is what St Chrysostom stated: Homilies on the Epistles of Paul to the Corinthians 5.2 "The man who is wise according to the standard of this world is really very foolish, because he will not cast away his corrupt teaching. A little learning is a...
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Brother In Christ, Does not address the subject. These verses are all referencing the works of the law. That these works cannot save mankind. They cannot redeem us. Only Christ can and man has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is all Grace. However, the works of Righteousness is entirely...
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Van, Of Course, nothing could match up to a personal view. That is why nothing can logically be against your view and no one has access to it. It is private. That is what makes it private. There is nothing that I have stated that has not been beleived by millions since the very beginning. On...
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Van, Why apeal to others. Your view is a private view. Has no historicity and cannot be validated by anything in history. You did not even attempt to validate it as reformational, probably because you cannot. The view I have presented is abundantly explained in every century of the Churches...
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    If the Pope is Christ's chosen successor . . .

    Borealis, Quite some logic. How can one even say there is a Pope, then?[/font]
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    apocatastasis, I guess, in his eyes. That's OK, Probably more like a burr, though.
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Van, Wrong based on your personal interpretation. You have yet to show that anyone, even someone since 1600 believes precisely the same as you do. You have not shown Apostolicity, nor the universality of the Gospel once given. If you will take the time to check even a couple of Church Fathers...
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Van, You have just showed my point, van. The rich young ruler was a believer. It didn't matter the level or quality as you clearly showed. Yet, he fell, he left, he was not willing to take up his cross and follow Christ completely.The virgins had faith too. They just were not ready when the...
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    Universal Atonement Refuted

    Raz, That the Gospel from the beginning has always taught and believed in the universality of Christ's Work on the Cross. That He redeemed mankind from the fall. That He came to save sinners. That He loved mankind even when we were still sinners. The unstated reason is that Satan would have...
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    Who makes the difference?

    mlqurgw, Take whatever time you need. I will respond to this post and you can include any response of this or to any other. I have given a lot of study and consideration but nothing is devloped by me. Most of what I wrote in the previous post is not much differenct than Iraneous, or...
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    Saved by Faith alone?

    Van, God accepts our faith period. There is not a single soul that begins or upon immediate mental faith is saved finitely as if they have matured in an instant. The example of Christ in speaking with Nicodemus regarding a spiritual renewal is as applicable to a physical one as well. No baby is...
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    Who makes the difference?

    mlqurgw, That may be very true as none of the others did either. My assumption to them is that they did not understand the Incarnation as it has been described and understood historically. But, your whole arguement of man being changed in order to believe, to give life is all accomplished by...
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    Universal Atonement Refuted

    Reformationist, there is no "extent" if one redefines the terms to fit a presupposition. In this case it is so universal that it includes the cosmos which then of course includes all of mankind as well. We know that from other texts as well where all the created matter was redeemed. Man is...