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The trouble with this whole arguement is that scientists are humans. As humans, their beliefs do enter into their research. As much as they would claim to be totally objective, no human being is. We constantly hear that science is simply objective in nature, can't explain the supernatural...

Hypocritcal how? Reading Luke 2:1 as literal or as the "known world" makes no difference whatsoever to the text. Using Song of Solomon as a symbol of Jesus' love for the church takes nothing away from the text. I think you can see that what I am opposing is your wholesale picking and choosing of...

Yes and no :D First off, SOS is quite obviously poetry. While Gen 1 may have a poetic style, we are dealing here with some serious issues. Look at it this way-if SOS is non-literal what is the consequenses? We are talking about the creation of everything vs a theme of "how to woe your lover"...

The link is listed above the article. All my other quotes have quotations marks, and no, I'm not David Lampe, whoever he may be. No one? I would think they people who were operated on could confirm it. But I will find more info. :rolleyes: Typical. 40 lab rats? But, according to...

Many portians of the Bible can be both literal and used symolicaly to make a point. Pastors do it all the time, I don't have a problem with it. It's only when you say it should not be read as literal that we have a problem.

I am not at all appalled by reading the Song of Solomon as a celebration of "erotic" love-in fact I have seen it refered to as something marryed couples should read together, and I think it has a lot of value. Some people have this weird idea that sex is a taboo subject. Obviously, they have to...

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DyeHard/dye991117.html I read a similar article, but this part seems like circular reasoning: . "Hydration rims formed on obsidian artifacts can vary in width from less than one micron for those from early history, to nearly 30 microns for...

You do know this is the Christians only forum, right?

http://www.onagocag.com/weight.html http://www.onagocag.com/mass.html Primitive? weopons-were they really primitive? "Point mass and it's consistancy certainly play an integral role in the mechanics of an atlatl and dart system. But no more so than dart length, dart flexibility...

Are we really so far advance beyond our ancestors? Just a couple articles to start, more later: Using replicated tools, some modern knappers have conducted very dramatic experiments. At Front Royal, Virginia, the Smithsonian Institution's resident knapper, anthropologist Dennis Stanford...

I have no idea what form the horseshoe crab took when it was created, and I doubt you do eithor, but let's stick to discussing issues in this thread. Ark Guy is welcome to join in if he wishes. If Genesis 1 was stuctured to destroy the Babylonian gods and it did so by making up a form of...

That is an awfully small sample for what, 25 billion years of evolution? Why don't we have several thousand of these fossils? Now, if we were only talking a few thousand years, in which man, not mindless humanoids, wandered and worked this earth, it makes a little more sense. You're...

I don't see where it conflicts with special creation. Creationists agree that species adapt. Also, no one said that everything is devolving at the same pace. I'm sorry if you don't like my wording, but you state repeatedly that Genesis is symbolic, that portains were even influenced by false...

For those who think there is no creationist support for the devolving of creation I've pulled some articles and snippets off of AIG: "Are cats getting dumber? UNIVERSITY of Tennessee researchers studying the Spanish wildcat, which appears to be almost identical to the one tamed by the early...

One more quick point: Storys such as this begin to cast doubt on the idea of neanderthals and humans being separate species. Assuming of course, that we look at the evidence with the reasonable idea that all hominoids may have been "us". "Analysis of the skeletal remains of a four-year-old...

Again, Also, why do we need a new scientific explaination when adaptation to a changing enviroment is already accepted science? Just because some of the adaptations are not beneficial in terms of lifespans, does this theory really require a whole new explaination? It just requires us to...

A material process when thing are spoke into existance? Just as one example, Adam was created as a man, not as a baby. If his remains were discovered, he would be assumed to have grown into adulthood like any other man. So, yes, the evidence would contradict the truth. God is not required to...

:confused: :confused: Huh?

This is a Christian forum. I believe that arguments derived from the Bible are allowed. Also, why do we need a new scientific explaination when adaptation to a changing enviroment is already accepted science?

The real question at hand, to simplify it a bit-How many times would evolution have to get it right? We are talking astonomical odds. The hurricane in the junkyard forming a 747 comparison comes to mind. Even given a few billion years to form, order does not magically arise from chaos. Of...