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  1. Belk

    Ohio Sheriff: "Write Down All the Addresses" of Harris Supporters, Calls Illegal Immigrants "Locusts"

  2. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    You are free to break the forum rules, as you have done here, if you see fit. I am not going to and no amount of goading on your part will change my decision.
  3. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    I mean we are not allowed to present our reasoning on abortion since it is against the forum rules to support abortion. The ideas we are expressing are not reasons for abortion but other peripheral ideas. Hence why they are not sensible reasons for abortion.
  4. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    It is not an "excuse" for abortion. Those are not allowed on this site.
  5. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    That is not what viability means and I think you know that. As far as it not being a good argument I'll go with all the legal scholars who say it is. I find their reasoning compelling.
  6. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    What arguments? I am prevented from presenting any arguments by this website.
  7. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    Viability is not arbitrary. It is quite literally the point at which it can survive as a distinct being. That is why the SCOTUS used it as the cut off in its compromise position between pro-choice and pro-life. If we are looking at when to balance the rights between two persons it seems...
  8. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    But why? What is the reason behind using those as as deadlines? That the organs have formed is a milestone to be sure but if the fetus is not viable it seems rather an arbitrary line.
  9. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    Why not? What makes the heart a determining factor?
  10. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    Then they will continue to lose support. People have seen the devastation total bans can cause.
  11. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    With current medical technology I believe it is somewhere between 22 to 24 weeks.
  12. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    After viability is when it strikes me as a reasonable cut off.
  13. Belk

    Former Clinton Advisor, who is paid by AdAge and Stagwell, calls for investigation

    I do not find Mark Penn's suspicion of some conspiracy to be well founded.
  14. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    I think there is a strong case against abortion later on in a pregnancy. I think that a lot of effort is put towards trying to make the arguments work from the point of conception which weakens the case immensely. As far as compromise, I think both sides are willing to do so. The issue I...
  15. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    As one of the none Christians in the site I can not agree with that reasoning. Personally I think the trend towards more personal autonomy is a good thing and I hope it is not reversed. I fully support your right to worship as you see fit and want the same right for myself.
  16. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

  17. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    Reasoning. That would be a well constructed argument based on facts that lead to a conclusion. Pictures are just an attempt to elicit a emotional response and not an argument.
  18. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    Disgust should never be the basis for outlawing anything. It is a response based on social mores and is not an acceptable substitute for good reasoning. That is why we did away with laws against miscegenation even though many found it disgusting. The facts were that the social response was...
  19. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    No. They are giving me links without showing how that supports their claim. If they wish to change my mind they actually need to put in the work to show how their claims are correct and not hyperbole as I think them to be.
  20. Belk

    Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

    Yes! Disgusting is not an argument. Give me well reasoned critiques that support a conclusion.
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