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  1. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    No, it is not hate. But it should be spoken with much wisdom. Especially when a lot of what is in the media is speculation.
  2. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    Like I said, that is why you will defame a leader, because you do not believe the bible. I think this is a good point to bail out of this conversation now, as we have come down to the root cause of the issue. Blessings and I hope this has made you think about what you say in future conversations.
  3. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    Romans 13:1 (ESV): "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God." By saying that God did not put Trump in place makes God into a liar. We should believe what His word says. In the Bible...
  4. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    Saul also did not honour God. He put himself first. (Trump may be like this, too.) But David understood that he was still to honour the person God had put in authority over him. Even when that person wanted to kill him. David did not want to touch the person that God had chosen. I don't think...
  5. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    I do agree that he said that. In saying this, God still appoints leaders. Whether they are Christian or not. God put him in place, and so we should respect his decision instead of mocking it or going head-on against it. Watched the video, and I was pretty amazed you took note of it. It is very...
  6. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    Here is a good video that you may like. It points out how the tariffs could be a bad idea. (Only 10 mins)
  7. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    Trump has done bad things. So did Moses, David and every other person in the bible (with one exception). I take it that the reason you are throwing so many stones is because you are without sin. It is a mess. It has been in a downward spiral for 40-odd years. That is why Trump has chosen not...
  8. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    America does have enemies. Take, for instance, Iran. Iran would like Israel and the US wiped off the face of the earth. With people who have a mindset like that, you may attempt to have a dialogue, but this does not always happen. You are spreading slander again. He was never convicted of...
  9. 1Tonne

    What do you say to someone who is put off Christianity because of Christians having differences?

    If this were a stranger that I was simply trying to share the Gospel with, I would think that he is trying to create a rabbit trail so that I do not get around to saying the Gospel. In evangelism, it is best to try and avoid rabbit trails. But this may be different, it could be a genuine...
  10. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    WOW. More good news. I wish I lived in America.
  11. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    To be honest, this sounds like you. Stop watching the news channels you watch because they seem to be shaping you to always look for the worst in people. Yes, Trump has done some bad things, but you also need to acknowledge the massive amount of good that he has done. So, please spend the next...
  12. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    It has diverged, but that is fine with me. I have a way bigger passion for the Gospel being spread than politics.
  13. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater...
  14. 1Tonne

    ChatGPT amazed me with wisdom. WOW moment.

    Yip. It can get things wrong. But a lot of the time, it can be very useful.
  15. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    We don't all have the same giftings, but we have all been called to tell as many people the Gospel as possible. So, God did make us all different. Some he made to be ears, some he made to be hands, some he made to be a mouth and some he made to be feet. If you are an ear, listen to people's...
  16. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    Maybe so in many churches. Sadly, like I said, I have asked believers what the Gospel is and what is needed to be saved, and people don't know. We need to say the Gospel inside the church and also outside. We should not stay silent, and we should not make up excuses.
  17. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    The Gospel is not unclear to me. You were saying that the Gospel is well understood within the church. I was simply pointing out that people in the church often argue about these questions. In truth, in many churches, a lot of people do not understand the Gospel. Especially in churches that...
  18. 1Tonne

    ChatGPT amazed me with wisdom. WOW moment.

    I often ask Chat to rewrite what I have written. I then cut and paste it onto the forums but then I edit it.
  19. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    No it is not. Even right now, Ray Comfort and NeedGod.net have been having a big debate over this. Is it by faith we are saved? Is it by Grace that we are saved? Do we have to do good works to be saved? Does true faith have works? Can we simply say we believe and continue life as normal? And...
  20. 1Tonne

    At what point do we become responsible for talking against leaders like Trump?

    You’re absolutely right—I've seen this firsthand in churches as well. When I ask people what the Gospel is, I get a wide range of answers. Some say it's "Jesus," others say it's "the Bible," and some even say it's "being a good person." That’s deeply concerning. I believe there are a few...
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