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  1. Douggg

    Looking for at least one other serious Bible student - regarding end times.

    Bob, the gathering of the elect in Matthew 24:31 from the four corners of heaven, and same said in Deuteronomy 30:1-6, is a figure of speech to mean from the furthest distant corners of the world, back to the land of Israel. It is not a referral to the rapture in Matthew 24:31.
  2. Douggg

    Looking for at least one other serious Bible student - regarding end times.

    Bob, the reason it is not the clouds of the sky of earth's atmosphere at that time, but clouds of (the third) heaven - is because before Jesus descends to earth - the second heaven, i.e. the cosmos made up of the stars, is parted like a curtain on a stage - and the world looking up and in awe...
  3. Douggg

    Looking for at least one other serious Bible student - regarding end times.

    Bob, that translation is misleading. It is not sky - but heaven. Jesus is coming from heaven, where He is now, down to earth in heavenly clouds. In Daniel 7:13 there are clouds in heaven. Revelation 19:14, the armies of heaven -not sky - follow him. 14 And the armies which were in heaven...
  4. Douggg

    Looking for at least one other serious Bible student - regarding end times.

    The gathering of the elect in Matthew 24:31 is not referring to the rapture, but the gathering of the children of Israel from around the world back to the land of Israel. It is based on a promise made to them in Deuteronomy 30:1-5. 1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come...
  5. Douggg

    Looking for at least one other serious Bible student - regarding end times.

    No, it does not. The rapture in Matthew 24:36-39.
  6. Douggg

    Looking for at least one other serious Bible student - regarding end times.

    Serious bible commentators don't consider the 1260 days in bible prophecy as 1260 years. Also show some timeline charts.
  7. Douggg

    Last Days Timing

    If so, keras needs to express being adamant on his position in a different way.
  8. Douggg

    Last Days Timing

    Hi claninja, Deuteronomy 18:21-22 applies to persons who issue proclamations saying that they are speaking on behalf of the Lord. I don't think keras has made any "thus saith the Lord" statements, claiming to speak directly for the Lord. What keras is doing is expressing his view(s) and...
  9. Douggg

    When did the church which is Christ’s body begin? Study series. Lesson#1 Israel’s position of preeminence in Gods Kingdom.

    Them in the OT did not know that the Messiah would die for their sins. And them in the New Testament before the resurrection did not think that the Messsiah would die at all. John 12:34 The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou...
  10. Douggg

    When did the church which is Christ’s body begin? Study series. Lesson#1 Israel’s position of preeminence in Gods Kingdom.

    The church did not exist before the resurrection of Jesus. In Matthew 16:18, Jesus said (paraphrased) I will (future tense) build my church on this rock (referring to Peter's statement of Jesus being the messiah). They had the hope of redemption based on faith - not works. No one was...
  11. Douggg

    How to understand the 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12

    keras, when Gog/Magog happens - before any Solar wipe-out-the-middle east event that you are claiming will happen - and God defends Israel over there as it now is, then all of your scenarios will be proven to be wrong. Them in Zechariah 14, who flee like their ancestors did in the days of...
  12. Douggg

    How to understand the 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12

    So why even move there in the first place ?
  13. Douggg

    How to understand the 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12

    And why not ? It will be the Jews that the kings of the earth will take as hostages, as part of the beast's, false prophet, and Satan's strategy to keep (in vain) Jesus from executing judgment on them. Psalms 2:1 1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2 The kings...
  14. Douggg

    How to understand the 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12

    The word "Jew' does not have to be in the text, because it is explicitly implied. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and...
  15. Douggg

    How to understand the 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12

    Actually, what it says in Zechariah 14 is that Jesus will stand on the Mt. of Olives - splitting it in half, making an escape route valley - for the THE JEWS. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall...
  16. Douggg

    When did the church which is Christ’s body begin? Study series. Lesson#1 Israel’s position of preeminence in Gods Kingdom.

    It is also important to know that the gospel of Savlation, the understanding of it, was hidden before the resurrection. Because otherwise, Satan and his angels (the princes of this world) would not have sought to have Jesus's crucified - because in doing so, they unwittingly made it possible...
  17. Douggg

    When did the church which is Christ’s body begin? Study series. Lesson#1 Israel’s position of preeminence in Gods Kingdom.

    The church, the body of Christ, began in Luke 24:44-48, after the resurrection. Before Jesus's resurrection, the gospel of Salvation was kept secret from man's understanding. Here are verses before the crucifixion and resurrection. Jesus told the disciples what was going to happen...
  18. Douggg

    How to understand the 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12

    No, it does not say Jerusalem in the text.
  19. Douggg

    How to understand the 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12

    Tim, in Revelation 7, the great multitude are in heaven because it says in verse 9.... 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and...
  20. Douggg

    How to understand the 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12

    Revelation 7: 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them...