Contradictions in the Qur'an

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Contradictions in the Qur'an

Many of these alleged contradictions in the Quran appear very similar to alleged contradictions Muslims have made about our Bible. Many of these alleged Bible contradictions were listed, and answered, in this thread.

But why the double-standard?

We treat the Muslim Quran as if it is to have no apparent discrepencies at all. Yet when alleged Bible discrepencies are pointed out, we rush to the defensive.

Are we at war with our Abrahamic brothers?
 
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mssy543 said:
Hello Petr



"One thing that many non-Hebrew speaking Jews and Christians mistake about is the name of GOD Almighty in the Bible. "Yahweh" in Hebrew means "The LORD" or the "The GOD". It is not a name. Let us look at the following quotations from Christian and Jewish resources:
"Judaism teaches that while God's name exists in written form, it is too holy to be pronounced. The result has been that, over the last 2000 years, the correct pronunciation has been lost." (Mankind's Search for GOD, p. 225).

Here we clearly see that the pronunciation for the original name for GOD Almighty had been lost, and the Jews have no idea what the exact pronunciation is from their Holy Scriptures and resources.

"About 3,500 years ago, God spoke to Moses, saying: 'Thus shall you speak to the Israelites: The LORD [Hebrew: YHWH], the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you: This shall be My name forever, this My appellation for all eternity.' (Exodus 3:15; Psalm 135:13)" (Mankind's Search for GOD, p.225).

"....the four Hebrew consonants YHWH (Yahweh) that in their Latinized form have come to be known over the centuries in English as JEHOVAH." (Mankind's Search for GOD, p.225).

So the word "YHWH" or "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" is not the ORIGINAL name, but the appellation (title) for the Almighty GOD. This is perfectly fine, because Jews, Christians and Muslims call on to GOD Almighty as "The LORD" or "The GOD", which means "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" in Hebrew and "Al-Rab" in Arabic. "Al-Rab" in Arabic and "Yahweh" in Hebrew and the other translations in all other languages are indeed GOD Almighty's title. But they are NOT His original Name!

Let us look at what Exodus 3:15 and Psalm 135:13 from the NIV Bible say: "God also said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, `The LORD [Notice that they didn't write Jehovah. "The LORD" in only a title], the God of your fathers--the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob--has sent me to you.' This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation. (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 3:15)"

"Your name, O LORD, endures forever, your renown, O LORD, through all generations. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 135:13)"

So as we clearly see from the above Verses from the NIV Bible, the original name for GOD Almighty is not "Yahweh". The title "The LORD" is only a title and a nick name (if you will) that we give to GOD Almighty. But "Yahweh" is definitely NOT THE ORIGINAL NAME for GOD Almighty."

http://www.answering-christianity.com/allah1.htm

Mssy

O Jehovah, Your name endures forever;

And Moses said to God, Behold, I shall come to the sons of Israel and say to them, the God of your fathers has sent me to you; and they will say to me, What is His name? What shall I say to them?
And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM; and He said, You shall say this to the sons of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.

We clearly see that when the Bible says "His name", it is referring to "I AM". This ain't a title, this is His NAME.
Because this name is divine, the Jews counted themselves unworthy to pronounce it, so they have changed all the referrences to the I AM to YHWH which was extremely hard to pronounce. Many times we read statements such as this in the Bible(in bold):
Three times in the year every one of your males shall appear before the Lord Jehovah.

Which is: "the Lord I AM"

Answering-Christianity has been known for spreading incorrect information, for example:
About 3,500 years ago, God spoke to Moses, saying: 'Thus shall you speak to the Israelites: The LORD [Hebrew: YHWH], the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you: This shall be My name forever, this My appellation for all eternity.'

While in the verse before it says that His name is "I AM".

So I'm asking, where does the Quran God designates Himself as the "I AM", which is the name He asked us to call upon Him with. I can call Zeus, LORD, but since it is only a title, it means nothing.
 
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A better way of saying it: You have a globe, and you put a 1,000 little dots within it. The dots are souls and worlds, the Christian God is within people, and also His kingdom is within people. Now the whole globe is the Father, the one and the same whole globe is also the Son, and the one and same globe is also the Spirit. 1x1x1. The three are perhaps just groups of different descriptions of the whole God (the globe in my analogy)
but the 3 is different, right..!?
 
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azri said:

Then which died on the cross?
None, however Jesus died on the Cross.
Through the Christ-spirit, the Son manifested within Him, in that Jesus effectively became the Son. The Son did not die, Jesus did. Remember the globe analogy and the dots.

I think we've been here before.
 
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azri said:
Before the Son manifest within him, is Jesus(pbuh) the Son?
In the beginning every soul was a manifestation of God, they were God, the scripture tells us we are gods, not that right now we may call our selves God, but when we shall attain to that Christ, we shall as well be One, just like He(Jesus). Many fell away, and now they are returning. The soul of Jesus was the first one to return, and become One with God. (the Scripture calls Jesus the first-born of many)
 
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In the beginning every soul was a manifestation of God, they were God, the scripture tells us we are gods, not that right now we may call our selves God, but when we shall attain to that Christ, we shall as well be One, just like He(Jesus). Many fell away, and now they are returning. The soul of Jesus was the first one to return, and become One with God. (the Scripture calls Jesus the first-born of many)
So, the purpose of life is to become God..?
 
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Bookofknowledge said:
I am sorry for not understanding the theory of “you are ONE, indifference become GOD.” Can you please explain a little more?



My example:

Take a piece of wood and try to be ONE with it and see if you can transform
The Bible tells us that we are primarily of the same substance as God(we exist in the form of spirit), therefore the wood...become one...transform analogy is not quite correct. We were formed according to His image and likeness, gods within God, forming a perfect unity - Oneness - between the God and the gods. Our innser selves are still the gods, only weakened by flesh and separation.
 
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