Christianity all over the news...

xtxArchxAngelxtx · Aug 26, 2003

Roy Moore and the Ten Commandments statue
Priest killed in Jail sell
Apostolic church kills an austic boy

This is what the non christian people are seeing everyday on the news. No freaking wonder there are so many atheist!!!!

This truly makes me sick, physically and spiritually.

I believe all 3 incidents are in the wrong, and/or got what some deserved and/or deserves more.

Brother Christman · Aug 26, 2003

xtxArchxAngelxtx said:
This is what the non christian people are seeing everyday on the news. No freaking wonder there are so many atheist!!!!

This truly makes me sick, physically and spiritually.

I believe all 3 incidents are in the wrong, and/or got what some deserved and/or deserves more.

While I support Judge Moore, his timing could have been better.

Let there be no mistaking: It's not coincidence that the secular media is seeking and will continue to seek opportunities to emphasize stories that put us in a bad light. The last "fair and balanced" look any of the news networks, including "conservative" ones took at Christianity was probably in blurbs about Mother Teresa's death.

Expect lots of tonge-lolled rolling in each - through reports liberally sprinkled with ignorant, anti faith buzzwords like "fundamentalist", "extremist", et cetera.

xtxArchxAngelxtx · Aug 26, 2003

I beleive Judge Moore is an embarresment.

Brother Christman · Aug 26, 2003

xtxArchxAngelxtx said:
I beleive Judge Moore is an embarresment.

This troubles me on your behalf, but I respect your opinion, bro.

xtxArchxAngelxtx · Aug 26, 2003

Brother Christman said:
This troubles me on your behalf, but I respect your opinion, bro.

I beleive Roy Moore should move the statue.

Christians are called to submite to our nations authorities, and Roy is not doing that. Christians are also to be thoughtful and loving to others, no matter who they are. By Roy Moore sticking to his pride, he is doing nothing but making non christians angry at us, thinking that we are stubborn and selfish for only thinking that Christianity is the only important religion in this Country. I will agree up and down that I beleive in God and am a christian and there is only one God, however, this country is based on equality.

If Roy Moore would have just moved it, non christians might think "Oh ok, he understands our thoughts." But no, now they think negative things about us, more so than before.

Roy Moore even said that he cannot move it b/c of his conscience. Now that is what makes me somewhat angry. If he would of said that it's b/c of what God directly told him, or even had a verse to back himself up with, that would be cool with me, but no, he's jduging off of his conscience.

We cannot force Christianity on people, and that is what he is doing.

Once again, he is to submit to his authorities in which God has placed above him, and to obey by the laws of our nation. He is not doing so.

Firscherscherling · Aug 26, 2003

Brother Christman said:
While I support Judge Moore, his timing could have been better.

Let there be no mistaking: It's not coincidence that the secular media is seeking and will continue to seek opportunities to emphasize stories that put us in a bad light. The last "fair and balanced" look any of the news networks, including "conservative" ones took at Christianity was probably in blurbs about Mother Teresa's death.

Expect lots of tonge-lolled rolling in each - through reports liberally sprinkled with ignorant, anti faith buzzwords like "fundamentalist", "extremist", et cetera.

Ah. I get it. It is the fault of the press. They should have ignored any negative stories that involve Christians. The story of a boy being murdered during a healing service isn't news anyway, right.

Your conspiracy theory about the press is hilarious as usual. On the news where I live there are regular religious stories. Positive ones. Very very regularly. Even the 'evil' PBS station has been repeating some religious documentaries, and other things like a retrospective on Tennessee Ernie Ford's gospel recordings. I don't recall lots of negative news in the religion section of our major daily...

I guess people see what they want to see.

Brother Christman · Aug 26, 2003

You do realize the anti God-and-American-nationalism folk have the mention of His name on our currency and every single representation in our government on their hit list, right?

If we're to move all vestiges of Christianity, do you back sandblasting half of Washington, too?

What about depictions of deities from the Greek/Roman pantheon? The Aztec monument in California? The eye of Horus/Osiris on the back of the dollar bill? Are we (somehow) the wrong religion that should step back and let all these other depictions stand without representing our faith?

I ask this out of love, in hopes of keeping others who've fallen asleep from stumbling: Do you believe in the Old Testament as God's Law and worthy of living by (anymore)? No matter what they say, these folk are not going to give back the religious freedom of expression you help toss onto the bonfire today.

Brother Christman · Aug 26, 2003

Firscherscherling said:
Your conspiracy theory about the press is hilarious as usual. On the news where I live there are regular religious stories. Positive ones. Very very regularly. Even the 'evil' PBS station has been repeating some religious documentaries, and other things like a retrospective on Tennessee Ernie Ford's gospel recordings. I don't recall lots of negative news in the religion section of our major daily...

I guess people see what they want to see.

Are those stories on your local news or national?

I've worked in a network newsroom (and know first-hand that the biases of the producer/director can and often do affect the objectivity of broadcasts, especially when ratings are at stake) have you?

Inspired · Aug 26, 2003

Brother Christman said:
You do realize the anti God-and-American-nationalism folk have the mention of His name on our currency and every single representation in our government on their hit list, right?

That's because someone added it in 1956, not because our Founding Fathers set it up that way, do you see it on a wheat penny?

Brother Christman · Aug 26, 2003

Inspired said:
That's because someone added it in 1956, not because our Founding Fathers set it up that way, do you see it on a wheat penny?

If the founding fathers intended no worship of or respect for God our Heavenly father, in government, why did George Washington call for a national day of thanksgiving for the Constitution? Why did Madison (one of the Constitution's architects) support the idea?

xtxArchxAngelxtx · Aug 26, 2003

Seperation of church and state... yes I disagree, but then again, this is the country you live in. If we don't keep this "equallity" then some other religion might take over.
However, if we keep on pushing Christianity as the dominante religion in the Governemtn, everyone will start hating us and the testemony of christianity all togetehr will start to decay, and less people will want to accept christ.

Brother Christman · Aug 26, 2003

xtxArchxAngelxtx said:
Seperation of church and state... yes I disagree, but then again, this is the country you live in. If we don't keep this "equallity" then some other religion might take over.
However, if we keep on pushing Christianity as the dominante religion in the Governemtn, everyone will start hating us...

Bro, I say this with love: Have you looked outside your window lately?

People do hate us and have for a while now. The homosexual agenda, in particular, calls for muzzling our religious freedom of speech (i.e. when we'd quote the Truth of God's Word in the pulpit about Leviticus 18:22 or seek to preserve parents' rights to dictate what their childre are and aren't taught).

A lot the God-haters have public school educations and would risk an anneurism if they stopped, thought, and had to admit that America's schools were started, originally, by Christians. We're not perfect, but we're the good guys, here.

The lines are being drawn and kowtowing to the PC crowd (who hate our God) won't do you any good. Wake up, please. :prayer:

xtxArchxAngelxtx · Aug 26, 2003

This sure as hell (literally) isn't helping us.

"but we're the good guys, here."

We are????? Priest's jailed up due to petaphellia, Church killing an autistic boy, and a judge who is being irrational and not taking all things (nor the word of God) into consideration (in my opinion) and it being shown across the nations. WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS????
Take a look on your television, cause thats where the rest of the world looks.... To them we are the bad guys and they now have solid reasons to hate us more so than ever before.

"Wake up, please. " I did and i see the truth that we are failing, big time. Why don't you see it?

Inspired · Aug 26, 2003

Brother Christman said:
If the founding fathers intended no worship of or respect for God our Heavenly father, in government, why did George Washington call for a national day of thanksgiving for the Constitution? Why did Madison (one of the Constitution's architects) support the idea?

George Washington proclaimed it, 3 Presidents after him did, it's hasn't been proclaimed since Lincoln.

Brother Christman · Aug 26, 2003

xtxArchxAngelxtx said:
We are????? Priest's jailed up due to petaphellia, Church killing an autistic boy, and a judge who is being irrational and not taking all things (nor the word of God) into consideration (in my opinion) and it being shown across the nations. WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS????
Take a look on your television, cause thats where the rest of the world looks.... To them we are the bad guys and they now have solid reasons to hate us more so than ever before.

Who's side are you on?

We're far from perfect, but you sound eager to join the homosexual/pagan/communist crowd in trumpeting our every mistep (and diverting attention away from the good we do that far outweighs it).

I say this love bluntly, because I don't want to know I turned my back on someone's stumbling: You sound far more troubled by public opinion than fearful of the Almighty.

And yes, we are the good guys. If you believe the Bible, you know who the anti Judeo-Christian folk are backed by (whether they realize/acknowledge it or not).

Inspired · Aug 26, 2003

Brother Christman said:
Bro, I say this with love: Have you looked outside your window lately?

People do hate us and have for a while now. The homosexual agenda, in particular, calls for muzzling our religious freedom of speech (i.e. when we'd quote the Truth of God's Word in the pulpit about Leviticus 18:22 or seek to preserve parents' rights to dictate what their childre are and aren't taught).

A lot the God-haters have public school educations and would risk an anneurism if they stopped, thought, and had to admit that America's schools were started, originally, by Christians. We're not perfect, but we're the good guys, here.

The lines are being drawn and kowtowing to the PC crowd (who hate our God) won't do you any good. Wake up, please.

How did this thread all the sudden become about the myth of a homosexual agenda?

strathyboy · Aug 26, 2003

Brother Christman said:
The homosexual agenda, in particular, calls for muzzling our religious freedom of speech (i.e. when we'd quote the Truth of God's Word in the pulpit about Leviticus 18:22 or seek to preserve parents' rights to dictate what their childre are and aren't taught).

The homosexual agenda, eh? God forbid they try to fight the discrimination pushed upon them by people such as you for what they choose to do in the privacy of their own homes. Perhaps America has more to fear from the Christian agenda.

Brother Christman said:
A lot the God-haters have public school educations and would risk an anneurism if they stopped, thought, and had to admit that America's schools were started, originally, by Christians.

You sound bitter that Christianity can't dictate what is or isn't taught in state schools anymore. God forbid you endorse the laws you claim to cherish. If you don't like the separation of church and state, I'm sure Iran would love to have you.

xtxArchxAngelxtx · Aug 26, 2003

I am on Gods side.

I see christian leaders embarising and making a mockery of God, making God look like a harlot. I will not have it.

If we christians are just going to sit here and not do anything about this, we are turning our backs on God.

Enough of priests being convicted and tried child molestation, or radical churches killing kids, or Political leaders being unable to let go of their Pride.

Our faults are being shown, and we are just sitting back hoping it goes away.

strathyboy · Aug 26, 2003

Brother Christman said:
Who's side are you on?

In case you haven't noticed, Christians tend not to agree on much.

Brother Christman said:
If you believe the Bible, you know who the anti Judeo-Christian folk are backed by (whether they realize/acknowledge it or not).

It seems clear that many Christians do not agree with your particular interpretation of the bible, thus your statement that any who "believe the bible" must therefore agree with you on all counts is patently ridiculous.

Your statements remind me of those who believed any who advocated the baptism of adults should be put to death as enemies of the state.

xtxArchxAngelxtx · Aug 26, 2003

"If you don't like the separation of church and state, I'm sure Iran would love to have you."

Amen

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