I think I did...but I respond to so many other forums....I'm not sure.tulc said:prince didymus wrote: (#31)
"What are you trying to say here? That those Christians who worship on Sunday will incur the punishment of eternal death/damnation?"
Silver Surfer:
I'm sorry did you answer this question?
tulc
goodnewsinc said:One day with God is 1000 earthly years and we KNOW the law is spiritual. The Sabbath Day commanded by Moses in the law was just an "allegory" pointing to that HUGE (1000-earthly years) DAY! Jesus did not change the law! "He MAGNIFIED IT and made it honorable".
Silver Surfer said:I think I did...but I respond to so many other forums....I'm not sure.
But I'll answer this here and now.
Remember that Jesus said; "But in vain....do they worship me...teaching for doctrine the commandments of men", (Matthew 15:3,9).
Sunday worship services are not ordained of God....therefore it is 'vain worship'.
To be really blunt...it is sin, because Sunday replaces the 7th day Sabbath which God set up as his Holy day.
He said to "REMEMBER the Sabbath day..to keep 'it' Holy", (Exodus 20:8-11).
And the Bible says that no one goes to heaven while committing known sin, (Romans 6:23).
Tribe said:Is that why God struck dead those Hebrews who tried to gather wood on the Sabbath?
Silver Surfer said:To disobey God's command results in eternal death, (Romans 6:23).
The ancient Jews considered any non-Jew who observed the Sabbath as worthy of death.
The Sabbath was given ONLY to the children of Israel, NOT to all mankind. The ancient Jews considered any non-Jew who observed the Sabbath as worthy of death.
Deuteronomy 5:12-15 NKJV:
"Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the LORD your God commanded you. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your ox, nor your donkey, nor any of your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates, that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you. And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day.
Exodus 12:49 NKJV:
One law shall be for the native-born and for the stranger who dwells among you." .
Leviticus 24:22 NKJV:
You shall have the same law for the stranger and for one from your own country; for I am the LORD your God."'.
Numbers 15:16
One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you."'
Numbers 15:29 NKJV:
You shall have one law for him who sins unintentionally, for him who is native-born among the children of Israel and for the stranger who dwells among them. .
Deuteronomy 31:12 NKJV:
Gather the people together, men and women and little ones, and the stranger who is within your gates, that they may hear and that they may learn to fear the LORD your God and carefully observe all the words of this law, .
KelsayDL said:OS, you seem to put alot of stock in this point concerning the ancient Jews. Yet ignore the posts people have made from Josephus stating that even the gentile believers in the diaspora observed the Sabbath.
They (the ancient Jews) added alot of their own beliefs to the Torah, which was a problem Jesus addressed in several instances. If you can show me where God says to put to death any non-Jew who observes the Sabbath, then I will put more stock into what you say concerning the issue. Until then, it is a man made doctrine and not of God, at best...
The ancient Jews you speak of here, also considered Jesus a heretic.
Sabbath observance in the early church
Josephus says
"There is not any city of the Grecians, nor any of the barbarians, nor any nation whatsoever, whither our custom of resting on the seventh day hath not come!" M'Clathie, Notes and Queries on China and Japan. (edited by Dennys),Vol.4, Nos. 7,8, p.100.
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DaTsar said:Deuteronomy 5:12-15 NKJV: " nor your stranger who is within your gates,
Exodus 12:49 NKJV: the stranger who dwells among you." .
Numbers 15:16 the stranger who dwells with you."'
Numbers 15:29 NKJV: the stranger who dwells among them. .
Deuteronomy 31:12 NKJV: the stranger who is within your gates,