usadingo said:
I think what I'm getting at is this.
If God guarentees healing, than resorting to any method less than Him is disobedience, and therefore, sinning.
Now if the Bible teaches us to take medicine, and go to doctors, than God does not guarentee healing. Instead, he provides methods outside of Him. He does, however, heal at times if it's His will. However, His main promise to us is salvation to eternity with Him.
Thanks.
Let me see if I can rephrase this for clearer understanding of what I am trying to point out.
I believe what Jesus did at the cross covered every need, for all mankind that man would ever have. Salvation of man's soul being the most important. I perceive it as a
has done (past tense), not a
will do (future tense). Jesus covered the whole nine yards. At the moment of acceptance of what he did on the cross for us we are WHOLE. When a person get's saved they don't do everything perfectly from that day on but they are progressively changing and taking on the appearance of their Heavenly Father. . .Spiritually, physically, and emotionally.
Here again are those 2 scriptures that I researched at blueletterbible.org. I believe it shows very clearly that whole includes not only salvation, but physical and emotional healing as well.
1 Peter 2:24 (Greek) "Who his own self bare our sins in his body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes
ye were healed".
Portion of verse aiming at:
"ye were healed"
Strongs Number: 2390
Outline of Biblical Usuage:
1) to cure, heal
2) to make whole
....(a) To free from errors and sins, to bring about (one's) salvation.
Clicking on the word heal referred me to: Mt 8:8, 13, Mt 13:15 , Mk 5:29, Luke 4:18, 5:17, 6:17, 19, 7:7, 8:47. Just to name a few. . . there were 2 pages of similar verses using the same Strong's number for the word healing in that verse.
IS 53:5 (Hebrew)"But he was wounded
for our transgressions, he was bruised
for our iniquities: the chastisement
of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes
we are healed".
Portion of verse aiming at: "for our transgressions"
Strong's Number: 06588
Outline of Biblical Usage:
1) transgression, rebellion
....a) transgression (against individuals)
....b) transgression (nation against nation)
....c) transgression (against God)
........1) in general
........2) as recognised by sinner
........3) as God deals with it
........4) as God forgives
....d) guilt of transgression
....e) punishment for transgression
....f) offering for transgression
Portion of verse aiming at: "for our iniquities"
Strong's Number: 05771
Outline of Biblical Usage:
1) perversity, depravity, iniquity, guilt or punishment of iniquity
....a) iniquity
....b) guilt of iniquity, guilt (as great), guilt (of condition)
....c) consequence of or punishment for iniquity
Portion of verse aiming at: "of our peace"
Strong's Number: 07965
Outline of Biblical Usage:
1) completeness, soundness, welfare, peace
....a) completeness (in number)
....b) safety, soundness (in body)
....c) welfare, health, prosperity
....d) peace, quiet, tranquillity, contentment
....e) peace, friendship
.......1) of human relationships
.......2) with God especially in covenant relationship
....f) peace (from war)
....g) peace (as adjective)
Portion of verse aiming at: "we are healed"
Strong's Number:07495
Outline of Biblical Usage:
1) to heal, make healthful
....a) (Qal) to heal
........1) of God
........2) healer, physician (of men)
........3) of hurts of nations involving restored favour (fig)
........4) of individual distresses (fig)
....b) (Niphal) to be healed
........1) literal (of persons)
........2) of water, pottery
........3) of national hurts (fig)
........4) of personal distress (fig)
....c) (Piel) to heal
........1) literal
........2) of national defects or hurts (fig)
....d) (Hithpael) in order to get healed (infinitive)
The Bible says that we are to have faith in God. We are not to trust in other things for our salvation or for our provision whether it be physical or emotional, or financial.
I do not believe the Bible says we are not to trust that God has given some, wisdom and knowledge in area's that are beneficial to us. . .but our salvation, whether it's spiritual or physical does not come from their knowledge and wisdom but from God. I trust God that He is working through my doctor to minister things to me in the physical that I have yet to fully understand in the spiritual.
I don't know that God provides anything outside of Himself. I believe that God provides and we as humans tend to look at those things as the provider when those things are only there because God is there.
God's provides via various methods but that in no way gives us permission to lean on that method. . .we are told to depend on Him alone. He is the one who gives the knowledge and the wisdom and the means. My job is not my provider, God is. My human doctor is not my healer, God is. My Pastor is not my redeemer, God is. The only thing required of me is to use the method He provides. . .whatever form it may take.
You have to be kidding....
