What in the world is wrong with the Church

I am writing this because I am so disturbed to see the Chuches that proclaim to be followers of Jesus standing and embracing evil and not taking a strong stand in these days. The Chuch of Jesus Christ is supposed to be a hospital to those hurting and who are trapped in the sin. Yes the bible says we have all sinned and come short of Gods Glory. But the leaders of our churches are not supposed to be compromisers of the truth. They are trading in the truth of God in for a lie. I keep reading article after article about denominations voting to embrace same sex marriages and Clergy who are sexually active and in these same lifestyles. It seems to be alot in the Main Line Churches that are doing this. I have friends in mainline churches who are out right discusted with this. I however am not in a mainline denomination. I am Pentecostal. Even in the Pentecostal Church there is an extremely small denomination who has ministers who participate in this lifestyle. Though 99.9 percent of Pentecostals denounced it and said we do not agre with this it was still done. What is going to happen if the Church cant even find its way. We as Christians really need to be on our knees praying for a move of the Holy Spirit that will convict these who are leading our Churches down a path to distruction. The Church is supposed to be lead by the Word of God wich is the Holy Bible. Instead the leaders of many of our churches are spitting and slapping God in the face. The Bible is so clear when talking about homosexuality. If the Church starts embracing this then what will the next step be.
 

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JEREMY O'ROURKE said:
I am writing this because I am so disturbed to see the Chuches that proclaim to be followers of Jesus standing and embracing evil and not taking a strong stand in these days. The Chuch of Jesus Christ is supposed to be a hospital to those hurting and who are trapped in the sin. Yes the bible says we have all sinned and come short of Gods Glory. But the leaders of our churches are not supposed to be compromisers of the truth. They are trading in the truth of God in for a lie. I keep reading article after article about denominations voting to embrace same sex marriages and Clergy who are sexually active and in these same lifestyles. It seems to be alot in the Main Line Churches that are doing this. I have friends in mainline churches who are out right discusted with this. I however am not in a mainline denomination. I am Pentecostal. Even in the Pentecostal Church there is an extremely small denomination who has ministers who participate in this lifestyle. Though 99.9 percent of Pentecostals denounced it and said we do not agre with this it was still done. What is going to happen if the Church cant even find its way. We as Christians really need to be on our knees praying for a move of the Holy Spirit that will convict these who are leading our Churches down a path to distruction. The Church is supposed to be lead by the Word of God wich is the Holy Bible. Instead the leaders of many of our churches are spitting and slapping God in the face. The Bible is so clear when talking about homosexuality. If the Church starts embracing this then what will the next step be.


Perhaps God is leading churches in a new direction. The actions of the churches only happen after much prayer, discernment, debate, and study. If these types of actions weren't taken and weren't done by the will of God, many of the evils of society and unjust political systems and laws would still be with us. I trust this discernment in my own life and the life of my congregation.
 
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The church was infiltrated by satan long ago. You heard of molestations in the media but what you don't hear is of the cases of satanic worship IN THE CHURCH ITSELF!

for example we have father Wingate here who says the Pope doesn't even control the church anymore! there are powers inside the church which are responsible for this (the poor old Pope can't do much)

http://www.trumpetersmission.com
 
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notto said:
Perhaps God is leading churches in a new direction. The actions of the churches only happen after much prayer, discernment, debate, and study. If these types of actions weren't taken and weren't done by the will of God, many of the evils of society and unjust political systems and laws would still be with us. I trust this discernment in my own life and the life of my congregation.

This is the commonly used lie that the mormons use when asked about changes to their doctrine. God has no shadow of changing and will not vacillate on his commands. The churches that espouse doctrines outside of the will of God as given in His word, the Bible, are heretical.
 
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jhessel said:
The church was infiltrated by satan long ago. You heard of molestations in the media but what you don't hear is of the cases of satanic worship IN THE CHURCH ITSELF!

for example we have father Wingate here who says the Pope doesn't even control the church anymore! there are powers inside the church which are responsible for this (the poor old Pope can't do much)

http://www.trumpetersmission.com
:( :( :(

geesh, it is deep in here
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
stop what???? stating facts???
Yeah, stating facts. Give me a break. God does not have to accept perversion to be a God of love. That is the dark side of humanity trying to mold God into what they want Him to be. Wont happen. Never has, never will. Lets remember sodom, and without all the clever distortions that homosexuals and pedophiles like to attach to it.
 
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ByGrace said:
Yeah, stating facts. Give me a break. God does not have to accept perversion to be a God of love. That is the dark side of humanity trying to mold God into what they want Him to be. Wont happen. Never has, never will. Lets remember sodom, and without all the clever distortions that homosexuals and pedophiles like to attach to it.

I think what God hates more than all this "perversion" is the way his loyal followers treat them.
 
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Originally Posted By: ByGrace
Originally Posted By: Volos

So what you are saying is you’re upset because a religion supposedly based on universal love is embracing compassion and rejecting hate?


Do you ever stop?

Do I ever stop questioning hypocrisy?

Never.
 
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ByGrace said:
Yeah, stating facts. Give me a break. God does not have to accept perversion to be a God of love. That is the dark side of humanity trying to mold God into what they want Him to be. Wont happen. Never has, never will. Lets remember sodom, and without all the clever distortions that homosexuals and pedophiles like to attach to it.

Even god was smart enough to say he would never do it again (the flood) "I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of a covenant between me and the earth ... Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life."
If God won't condemn them, maybe you should move on too.
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
Even god was smart enough to say he would never do it again (the flood) "I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of a covenant between me and the earth ... Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life."
If God won't condemn them, maybe you should move on too.

"As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of man"(Luke 17:26-27).

the rise of homosexuality is just another sign. The goal is to make society as immoral and decadent as in the days of Noah. We are in the end times.

DON'T HELP SATAN! and for your own good don't be deceived by the mass media.
 
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I do not condemn anyone. Not my job. I just think it is funny when a bunch of people who have no light and shun the source of that light want to mold Him into what is comfortable for their lifestyle. No, God wont flood the earth again but that does not mean that there will be no judgement. Volos, I take it by your little rainbow bear and your adament support of the homosexual community that you are on that side of the fence. I do not condemn you and I hope that you can find the truth. I would love to spend eternity with everyone. May God touch your heart.
 
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I do not condemn anyone. Not my job. I just think it is funny when a bunch of people who have no light and shun the source of that light want to mold Him into what is comfortable for their lifestyle. No, God wont flood the earth again but that does not mean that there will be no judgement. Volos, I take it by your little rainbow bear and your adament support of the homosexual community that you are on that side of the fence. I do not condemn you and I hope that you can find the truth. I would love to spend eternity with everyone. May God touch your heart.
Why not just go ahead and ask? “Volos are you gay?” It’s easy, four little words.
 
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I can not believe that I read someone say that maybe God is leading the Church in a new direction. This is a lie straight from the pit of hell. There was no discernment in the decisions made to have homosexuals leading our churches. Discernment comes from Gods word the Holy Bible wich is without the least bit of error in it. The last time I checked the Bible still says the same thing about homosexuality. It is an abomination in the sight of God. If there were any reason to change on this issue then God will have to apolagize to Sodom & Gammorra. You are saying that God can actually make a mistake. This sounds like blasphemy to me. The Church is supposed to be a hospital for the hopeless. The homosexual, drug addict, prostitute, murderer, etc is supposed to be able to be set free by Gods power and be changed. If our Churches are going to embrace the very sins that Jesus died for to redeem by his blood he shed on the cross than how sad. God is never going to accept perversion. If your God does then he is not the Jesus that the Bible talks about. Why would he be very clear on this issue and then all of a sudden change his mind about this. I dont want to serve that type of god. Give me the one that remains true to his word. Give me the Jesus of the Bible. Jesus said heaven and earth would pass away but his word would not change. Hebrews 13 and 9 says Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Does this sound like he changes to you.
 
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1) A majority of those who think homosexual clergy is a good thing are secular non Christians.

2)The institution of gay clergy is a cloven-hooved infiltration, but the second runner up (that in a way, is almost equally disturbing) is how they claim to've justified it: Robinson's bunch say they've been guided by the Holy Spirit and that the decision comes from the church in “communion” with it. In a nutshell (no pun intended), they're opting to leave the God's Word (the Bible) completely out of the equation.

Let's review a little Christian math here:

The Word + the Holy Spirit + the Church = Christianity

In a very real sense, the Word with the Holy Spirit and the Church are what our religion is based upon. Removing any of the three components is like saying “okay – sorry Jesus, we're just gonna' worship God and the Holy Spirit now.” No matter what lunacy is popular (i.e. "let's give thieves special rights as 'sticky finger' Americans and regardless of their avowed lifestyle of sin, make em' bishops"), the necessity of all three facets of Christianity remains as unchanging as God's holy Word.

Now let's get a little trickier:

Holy Spirit + the church – the Word =...

Well, I'm not sure what it equals, but it ain't truly Christian... I digress, though.

Christianity + gay clergy = Christianity – the Word = insanity – Holy Spirit.

There you have it. :(
 
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