how do you feel about marijuana usage?

antelope · Aug 16, 2003

Hi all, my name is matt..i just found the forum. I was raised in the church, am 21 now, and at this point, i'm not sure what i believe in. I know there is something out there, i just want to find it for myself, by myself. anyways...

I'll admit it, i smoke marijauna on occasion. By on occasion i mean a few times a week. I never drive while high or anything that would endanger other people or make them uncomfortable. In fact i usually just do things such as listen to music, enjoy nature...subtle things, things that I usually don't have time to acknowledge and think about during my busy schedule of work and college.

The reason i brought this to this forum is because a few of my Christian friends scold me and have actually distanced themselves from me for the sole reason I do this, claiming that I have changed, although they didn't apparently feel this way for the 2 years that i smoked without them knowing. I never smoke when i am with them, nor have i been high while ive hung out with them...so as far as i can see i haven't done anything wrong to them personally besides possible dissapointing them for reasons that i do not understand.

I honestly have a hard time contimplating how society can blatently advertise tobacco and nicotine while condemning marijuana, a plant that is scientifically proven to be less harmful and not addictive. Just a few days ago I saw a commercial from the govt saying "marijuana leads to underage sex" or something like that, followed by a commercial for beer depicting two nearly naked women wrestling each other in a fountain. Also...isn't it a plant that the lord created?

I would like to know, from a Christian's point of view, what is wrong with smoking marijuana, other than that it is illegal in the US. Claims that it is addictive or that it is a gateway drug are, to me, completely false. The government has led to these beliefs. I have smoked for three years. For a 6 month period, I completely quit smoking (for a job, random drug tests.) I did not experience withdrawals. Nor did I crave it. The only times that i noticed anything was when i was around other people that were smoking. I have also never even experimented with anything else.

I brought this topic to the forum because I would like to know an honest answer from true-believers, and I feel that pressuring my friends into explaining themselves would only distance them.

Thank you so much for your time....responses/debate would be very much appreciated, as i am confused at this point.

matt

also....I am grately sorry if this post in anyway offends anyone. Also, if this should be posted in another category, or none at all....i will delete/move the thread to another location....i picked this area of the site because, to me, this topic falls into "relaxtion"...and if it is inappropriate for this christain board, could you please direct me to another forum that this debate would be tolerated in. thanks again

Cherberrie · Aug 16, 2003

Sorry, haven't learned how to post links yet, but there are discussions on this topic in the General Apologetics forum and in the Politics forum. Hope this helps!

Inspired · Aug 16, 2003

Cherberrie said:
Sorry, haven't learned how to post links yet, but there are discussions on this topic in the General Apologetics forum and in the Politics forum. Hope this helps!

All you do is copy the link then come here, right click on the paste and click paste

http://christianforums.com/t7402

erichmess_ · Aug 16, 2003

I don't have the exact Bible verse, but I know it talks about keeping your body and mind pure. Marijuana (and cigs for that matter) definately do not help keep you pure in any fashion. Cigs cause a lot of physical problems, and marijuana causes mental (like memory loss, poor judgement, etc).

On the argument that God put the plant here, yes, that's true. God also put poisonous snakes and incects, lions, sharks and reality show contestants on this Earth, all of which it would be wise to stay away from.

Cherberrie · Aug 16, 2003

Inspired said:
All you do is copy the link then come here, right click on the paste and click paste

http://christianforums.com/t7402

Thanks Inspired!

I'm kind of apprehensive to post a response to the OP here, cause I can't seem to find the actual threads about this subject in GA and Politics that I posted on.

SystemOfADOWN · Aug 16, 2003

Breathing in smog from your city isn't keeping your body pure, either.

So, breathing is wrong?

ouse · Aug 16, 2003

mmmmm point taken, but since you asked an oppinion antelope, ill give you mine.

marajuana = bad.

i beleive that i CAN be used for medicinal reasons but the key word is in caps, CAN most times it dosent really need to be used.

other than that, why not just not concern yourself with it as a drug because it costs money and we as christians need to be spreadin the word right? so i say just dont waste your time.

SirKenin · Aug 17, 2003

In my life, I find marijuana to have a therapeutic use. It's true that it has it's side effects, but so does every drug that I'm on.

I find that it helps calm me down and look at life the way other people would see it, as opposed to elevated, expansive thinking with 100 thoughts running through my head simultaneously. Weed brings everything to a grinding halt. It's great while it lasts.

That's why I often use a marijuana caduceus as my avatar. I support the use of mary jane in specific medical circumstances.

People can scorn at me if they will, but I think that it's usage of mary in excess that is wrong.

amie · Aug 17, 2003

When it comes to marijuana I personally feel it should be legalized.
I know 2 people who takes marinol (the medical marijuana pill and it has changed their life for the better)
Like anything moderation would be a key, I see nothing wrong with smoking it. The laws in California are becoming more lenient than ever before. possession for personal use is one thing but possession with intent to sell is a whole different ballgame...

I have smoked pot in the past and I never felt it gave me a propensity to move on to harder drugs so I tend to disagree with the "gateway drug" theory however I can see how for some people marijuana/soft drugs led to other things...

btw I need some sleep, I just had to look up the correct spelling of possession and edit cuz i kant spel.
good night

Marcel · Aug 17, 2003

Babe, hang up your phone plz.

It would be simple, if good and bad didn't come ingradations, but realisticly speaking they do...

Blowing way too much money away on pot is bad, being caught in a stoned daze most of the time doesn't contribute to your productivity, smoking is unhealthy to begin with...

...however I don't see having an occasional joint being more hazardous than the avarage drive on the freeway (where instant death is one accident away), and it's ultimately just another way of getting a buzz, same as wine or beer, I must agree whith people who say, that if people had a joint in their hand in stead of a gun the world would be considerably more peacefull.

However you need to keep in mind, that the money you spend on pot, may end up getting spend on the production of hard-drugs illegal weapons etc. Lots of criminal organizations use marihuana sales as an extra source of income.

Which is at least one good reason to consider legalizing it.

SnowOwlMoon · Aug 17, 2003

I feel about pot the same way I do about alcohol: I've never seen anyone improved by either one. You may FEEL better, but ask those around you--who are not smoking or drinking--to tell you honestly how you behaved, or to take a video.

Taking marijuana for medicinal purposes (eg treatment of glaucoma) is completely different from smoking it for recreational purposes, and I think everybody here is smart enough to figure that out. There are a lot of legal medications that are abused for recreational use.

Marijuana does have physical effects on the body; it lowers testosterone levels, for one thing. It's also affecting your lungs--whatever you breathe in affects your lungs. For the person who compared it to smog, get real. You know the difference. You don't have a choice whether or not to breathe smog, if live in a city. But you DO have a choice whether to smoke or not.

For those of you who are in college and smoking a couple of times a week, is it affecting your grades? Do you think your grades might be better if you didn't smoke? Does it affect your ability to do your part in a group assignment? (it used to royally tick me off when I'd end up doing the bulk of the work in a group assignment, because the other people were screwing off) Are you ever late for work or class? Be brutally honest with yourself in answering the questions. And ask your friends the same questions--they may not see things the same way.

If you didn't notice any difference in the few months you didn't smoke because a job--then why did you start smoking again? If there was really no difference in the way you felt--why did you start again? It seems to me you have some dependance on marijuana, or you would not have started again.

JMHO.

erichmess_ · Aug 17, 2003

SystemOfADOWN said:
Breathing in smog from your city isn't keeping your body pure, either.

So, breathing is wrong?

You don't really have a choice in what you breathe in, do you? Smoking is a choice, breathing isn't.

silvalynin · Dec 10, 2009

If you enjoy smoking, and it is not effecting you negatively (use a vaporizer if you're worried about your lungs, or extract the THC into oil and make food with it), then there should be no issue. You have to understand that many people are misinformed about marijuana to begin with and think of it negatively by default because it's what they've heard all their life, so if you enjoy it, educate yourself and others - some will be open minded and listen to what you have to say and may do research on their own, and others will continue to feel negatively towards it for whatever reason. Either way, enjoy life

yay to 6 year old threads

SparkyMaddie · Dec 10, 2009

i think its kind of dumb unless you've got a medical need like cancer or glaucoma. i think drinking to get buzzed is just as dumb if you're gonna drive or be doing something where ya need your BRAIN on alert

silvalynin · Dec 10, 2009

sparks_will_fly said:
i think its kind of dumb unless you've got a medical need like cancer or glaucoma. i think drinking to get buzzed is just as dumb if you're gonna drive or be doing something where ya need your BRAIN on alert

So if you're not planning on driving or doing anything potentially harmful to yourself or others, alcohol use is acceptable but marijuana is not?

WhiteWillow · Dec 12, 2009

I dn't have a problem with the law.

SparkyMaddie · Dec 15, 2009

silvalynin said:
So if you're not planning on driving or doing anything potentially harmful to yourself or others, alcohol use is acceptable but marijuana is not?

you took everything i said outta context

jsimms615 · Jan 9, 2010

I think I don't need anything to blur an already blurry mind

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