usadingo said:
the argument is drawn that Christ bore our diseases on the cross.
Actually, you are very close in understanding the chain of events that transpired on Crucifixion day. For instance, Jesus received His stripes when He was tied to a whipping post. Isaiah says, looking into the future, "by His stripes we are healed". If you want to deny that Jesus
did not carry our sicknesses on His stripes to the moment of death on the Cross, then that would be your choice.
usadingo said:
There is no basis to identify the "curse of the law" with the curses of Deuteronomy 28.
- 1...Dan 9:11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that [is] written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.
- 2...2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written [and] engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which [glory] was to be done away:
- 3...2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation [be] glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
The
Message translation puts it this way, vs.7 "...The Government of Death, its constitution chiseled on stone tablets..."
and in vs.9 "... the Government of Condemnation was impressive..."
So, the Law of sin and death is the Mosaic Law, as evidenced by the above references. Plain and simple, as you quoted, "
'Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them. Jesus was made cursed for us, so we could be blessed in Him as joint-heirs (with Abraham's inheritance).
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:
Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Of course the blasting of mildew, your wife getting violated, and you being forced to eat your young is in the curse. God told us that if you don't heed His "commandments and His statutes", (another translations says it this way,'
commandments and guidelines'), then these things will come upon you. Sickness included.
Here is another sacred cow. God
DOES NOT put poverty on you. Your disobedience will open the door for Satan to steal your health, goods, social standing and joy. Satan is the one who desires to sift you, keep in mind, God will not let Satan do to you more than you can handle.
If you find yourself broke, penniless and out of a place to stay, then you could have done something about it. Or did God forget His promise to restrict Satan from doing more to you than you can handle? God will let Satan do these things, not because He is teaching you a lesson, but because of your lack of knowledge. Your lack of knowledge is what prevents Him from helping you. If you were standing on a promise of God, in faith, then God could do something. But not unless you are exercising your faith...If you are in confusion about a promise of God, then how can you walk in faith?
Look at what really happened to Peter's faith when he walked on the water.
Mat 14:30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
Mat 14:31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth [his] hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt? Notice Jesus said that Peter had a "little" faith, Jesus also asked Peter
where did he doubt? The idea that Peter sank because he took his eyes off Jesus is a religious con. You can go ahead and believe that if you want, but that is
not faith. The problem was Peter let
fear creep in and it contaminated his faith.
I've heard someone say "Fear tolerated is faith contaminated" and I think that is very true. AT least in my experience.
When I first got saved, I adopted alot of the church's doctrines, without studying them and without the revelation of the Holy Spirit given to me. This is ok for the developing babe in Jesus, but there comes a time when you should be grown up and teaching from experience, the same things Jesus did and teach.
In the process of developing in Jesus, I found that some of the church doctrine wasn't right on the money. Some of it was really off base and some of it was intellectually sound but void of the Spirit. By that, I mean, without Spiritual ears to hear with, you would completely miss the hidden revelation in it.
I got saved in the summer of 1973 and even now, I still have a lot to learn from the Scriptures. God is still correcting me on some of the things I thought I had right, but I had to learn to be quick to accept the correction and consequently, my prayers are not as hindered as before. I had accepted God's changing my scriptural knowledge in order that I could be a more effective witness or proof that God does hear and answer prayer.
This is why it is so important to pray in agreement with God's will, and you should be able to ascertain just what His will is on any matter, by looking at the examples and guidelines He put in the Scriptures. If you have an misunderstanding, then His Word will not work for you, period...
So, it's up to you, really, how much God is able to manifest Himself in your life. You can see how the blessing of God was on Abraham...as his heirs, the same blessing should be so apparent and heavily on each of us that the unsaved will whisper to each other and say, "He has God's Hand on him...", Now that's an awesome witness, would you think?
I leave you with this verse;
Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
Heb 6:4 For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.
Heb 6:7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
Heb 6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers [is] rejected, and [is] nigh unto cursing; whose end [is] to be burned.
Heb 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
Heb 6:10 For God [is] not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
Heb 6:12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
The "Message Translation" says it like this,
"Heb 6:12 Don't drag your feet. Be like those who stay the course with committed faith and then get everything promised to them!"