New gallup polls: support for homosexuality slipping

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Here is some reassuring news from, well, the news:

"Rhetoric aside, a recent Gallup Poll (search) suggests that for the first time since the 1980s, support for the gay lifestyle — including the much-discussed idea of same-sex marriages — has begun slipping.

Pollsters acknowledge that recent events have played a role in what might be a "gay backlash."

"There really has been a shift in the population," said Frank Newport, executive editor of the Gallup Poll, which conducted two surveys last month following the U.S. Supreme Court's landmark ruling in June to overturn a Texas law that criminalized gay sex.

In both polls, support for homosexuals dropped markedly from the same survey conducted in May. Across nearly every demographic group — including age, religion, income, race and region of the country — Gallup reported a "dramatic reversal" in what had been increasing tolerance over the last few decades."

Maybe there is hope . . .
 

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Hope for continued discrimination against people based on their sexual orientation, maybe. There certainly is no such thing as one "gay lifestyle," as there is no one Christian or Red Cross or disco dancing or fraternity member lifestyle...such inflammatory language implies bias against gay people.
 
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Knight said:
I think Americans are getting tired of this "homosexuality in-your-face" stuff.

Considering Christianity and it's obsession with sexual immorality, I think the whole faith needs to take partial responsibility for throwing the issue into people's faces. If you parade an idealism, you will get those who parade against it, so this issue is entirely a universal one, not reserved strictly for one group of people.
 
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Nelzador said:
Considering Christianity and it's obsession with sexual immorality, I think the whole faith needs to take partial responsibility for throwing the issue into people's faces. If you parade an idealism, you will get those who parade against it, so this issue is entirely a universal one, not reserved strictly for one group of people.
That was one of the most intelligent things I have ever read. Gj

Oh and click here for a marginally crude and very funny view from The Onion on gay pride.
 
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Nelzador said:
Considering Christianity and it's obsession with sexual immorality, I think the whole faith needs to take partial responsibility for throwing the issue into people's faces. If you parade an idealism, you will get those who parade against it, so this issue is entirely a universal one, not reserved strictly for one group of people.

Please explain where you're getting this idea from.
 
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revolutio said:
For every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Newton's third law applied to a social situation.

Any object in motion will continue in motion until acted upon by an outside force.

Newton's first law applied to social situations.

Christians did not start this ball rolling.
 
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If you believe in something strong enough, you will parade it, I have no problem with that. It is the way it should be. I do not blame the homosexual community for doing anything that it does since they truly believe what they are doing is acceptable and should be given equal respect. If I was gay, I would do the same thing.

The problem is that, regardless of how strongly you believe something, it can still be very, very wrong. While I think that the Church focuses too much on the sexual sins and not enough on the other sins (pride, greed, gluttony, covetousness, etc) that plague our society, the fact still remains that the Bible teaches that certain sexual practices are sinful and will lead to an eternity in Hell. There is no getting around that unless you take the position that the Bible is not correct, or as Robinson says, "not for today".

And, if I see a growing movement that is promoting a sinful lifestyle which will lead to greater and greater numbers engaging in the sin and dooming themselves to an eternity of suffering, I can not help but be very happy to see that the inertia of this movement is waning.
 
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When you want to cook a frog, they say, don’t throw it into boiling water, since it will only jump out. Instead, place Froggie in a pot with tepid water and, ever so slowly, continue to increase the heat. When the poor fellow finally realizes he is being cooked, he’ll have no more strength to resist.
Radical gay activists must have taken a cue from this tale, because it seems to be the tactic of choice for advancing their cause: the normalization of homosexuality in Western culture.
Normalizing homosexuality would at first seem to be a quixotic task, given that thousands of years of human social history, religious teachings and civil law militate against it. This pedigree has not stopped the activists, however.

Over the past 30 years, gay advocacy groups have made themselves into a powerful political force, determined to win the day even if it means tearing down age-old existing traditions.

Euphemistically redefining “gay” to mean “homosexual” and hitching their wagon to the civil rights movement, gay organizations regard disagreement or disapproval of their views as outright “discrimination,” a result of “sexism,” “gender stereotyping,” or plain old (but inaccurate) “homophobia.”

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/6/12803.shtml
 
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Mechanical Bliss said:
No, Americans just tend to value bigotry and religious fanaticism more than freedom, which are what is tearing apart the true fabric of American society.

Of course no statistics are actually presented nor a source...


Do you have any statistics or sources to back up YOUR claim??
 
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Over the past 30 years, gay advocacy groups have made themselves into a powerful political force, determined to win the day even if it means tearing down age-old existing traditions.

Really? Does that mean we should bring back the dark ages of religious fear over fact? Burn a few scientists at the stake for daring to speak against the age-old existing traditions and teachings of Christianity?
 
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sweetkitty said:
Normalizing homosexuality would at first seem to be a quixotic task, given that thousands of years of human social history, religious teachings and civil law militate against it. This pedigree has not stopped the activists, however.
Thankfully. Civil law also dictate that blacks were an inferior race and could be enslaved. Religious teachings allowed for "witches" to be burned at the stake for not confessing, however if they did confess they were let to live.

Humanity is improving and progressing. Many things that have worked for years are now being invalidated.

Homosexuals want to gain acceptance into society because they don't want to be forced to change or hide who they are. No one wants to have to make sacrifices just to fit in. It makes sense that they would try to work their way into mainstream society slowly because if they did it quickly it would cause the opposite side to rapidly and drastically fortify their position and resist. This would probably lead to violence through somebody's stupid and reckless bigotry.

Bottom line, who cares what other people do? They aren't doing anything negative to you personally nor to anyone else (any more than certain humans do).
 
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sweetkitty said:
Do you have any statistics or sources to back up YOUR claim??

No need because my source would be the same. Such a decrease indicates prevalence of bigotry, and it is well known that religious fanatics are in seats of power in the government and that Christianity is a prevalent in this country. The more those religious fanatics in power complain and the more religious leaders call for increased bigotry, the more the ignorant, impressionable masses will just blindly follow.
 
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Knight said:
Christians did not start this ball rolling.

Of course they did. The suppression of homosexuality is what would cause such a reaction by homosexuals. Unfair suppression of homosexuals will be met with an attempt to rise up against prejudice.
 
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