sincere, seeking, now what?

All my life I have wanted a relationship with Christ. I am open to his word, and wait patiently for Him to call on me. I have prayed the sinners prayer, I have confessed my sins, I admit to being a sinner, and have asked God to come into my heart.

Why has nothing happened in 6 years?

I still feel like the same ol' person I have always been.

I also have so many questions regarding christianity and can't seem to get any straight answers.

Any suggestions?
 

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I work in a christian preschool with very Godly people who love Jesus and know that He is real, yet it doesn't mean it is real for me.

I also have a hard time losing this thought:

"just because people believe something, doesn't make it true or a fact."

It seems I have only heard emotional arguements for the belief in God. I would love some facts.

PS- all I want it to believe. I want nothing more.
 
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Seeking_Truth said:
I work in a christian preschool with very Godly people who love Jesus and know that He is real, yet it doesn't mean it is real for me.

I also have a hard time losing this thought:

"just because people believe something, doesn't make it true or a fact."

It seems I have only heard emotional arguements for the belief in God. I would love some facts.

PS- all I want it to believe. I want nothing more.



Seeking Thruth this site always help me, see if it help you also.

http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Gleanings_Godhead/godhead.htm
 
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Seeking_Truth said:
All my life I have wanted a relationship with Christ. I am open to his word, and wait patiently for Him to call on me. I have prayed the sinners prayer, I have confessed my sins, I admit to being a sinner, and have asked God to come into my heart.

Why has nothing happened in 6 years?

I still feel like the same ol' person I have always been.

I also have so many questions regarding christianity and can't seem to get any straight answers.

Any suggestions?

You mean you've waited 6 years for God to call you to a ministry?

Sometimes He takes longer than that. I was a Christian for 12 years before He gave me my ministry. He was making me ready, and waiting for me to make myself ready.

How have you made yourself ready to serve Him? In what ways are you serving Him now, in church and other ministries?
 
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Seeking_Truth said:
All my life I have wanted a relationship with Christ. I am open to his word, and wait patiently for Him to call on me. I have prayed the sinners prayer, I have confessed my sins, I admit to being a sinner, and have asked God to come into my heart.

Why has nothing happened in 6 years?

I still feel like the same ol' person I have always been.

I also have so many questions regarding christianity and can't seem to get any straight answers.

Any suggestions?

I'll tell you this, the fullness of christianity is elusive. If you really want to find the truth (as your name indicates) I would suggest researching the origins of Christianity. The early church fathers are a good place to start. The writings of the church fathers are from when the church was in it's infancy and they are the foundation that ALL christianity shares. Additionally, the writings of the early church fathers give us an insight into the understandings of the very people who walked with Christ and the Apostles. As for the questions you have about christianity which you can't get a straight answer about, I'd be glad to take some of them on. If I don't know the answer, I can definitely find it for you.
 
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Seeking_Truth said:
I work in a christian preschool with very Godly people who love Jesus and know that He is real, yet it doesn't mean it is real for me.

I also have a hard time losing this thought:

"just because people believe something, doesn't make it true or a fact."

It seems I have only heard emotional arguements for the belief in God. I would love some facts.

PS- all I want it to believe. I want nothing more.

qt

Unfaithfulness Is One of the most outstanding sins of these evil days. In the
business world, a man’s word is, with rare exceptions, no longer his bond. In
the social world, marital infidelity abounds on every hand, the sacred bonds of
wedlock are broken with as little regard as discarding an old garment. In the
ecclesiastical realm, thousands who have solemnly covenanted to preach the truth
have no scruples about attacking and denying it. Nor can reader or writer claim
complete immunity from this fearful sin. How many ways have we been unfaithful
to Christ, and to the light and privileges which God has entrusted to us! How
refreshing, then, and how blessed, to lift our eyes above this scene of ruin,
and behold One who is faithful, faithful in all things, at all times.
"Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God" (Deut. 7:9).
This quality is essential to His being, without it He would not be God. For God
to be unfaithful would be to act contrary to His nature, which is impossible.
"If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful; he cannot deny himself’ (2 Tim.
2:13). Faithfulness is one of the glorious perfections of His being. He is
clothed with it: "O LORD God of hosts, who is a strong LORD like unto thee? or
to thy faithfulness round about thee?" (Ps. 89:8). So too when God became
incarnate it was said, "Righteousness shall be the girdle of His loins, and
faithfulness the girdle of His reins" (Isa. 11:5).
What a word in Psalm 36:5, "Thy mercy, O LORD, is in the heavens; and Thy
faithfulness unto the clouds." Far above all finite comprehension is the
unchanging faithfulness of God. Everything about God is great, vast,
imcomparable. He never forgets, never fails, never falters, never forfeits His
word. To every declaration of promise or prophecy the Lord has exactly adhered;
every engagement of covenant or threatening He will make good, for "God is not a
man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he
said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"
(Num. 23:19). Therefore does the believer exclaim, "His compassions fail not,
they are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness" (Lam. 3:22-33).
 
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Seeking_Truth said:
I work in a christian preschool with very Godly people who love Jesus and know that He is real, yet it doesn't mean it is real for me.

I also have a hard time losing this thought:

"just because people believe something, doesn't make it true or a fact."

It seems I have only heard emotional arguements for the belief in God. I would love some facts.

PS- all I want it to believe. I want nothing more.

qt

Two Serious Mistakes have been made by men in taking or not taking Christ for
their example. It is difficult to determine which is the more evil and fatal of
the two. First, those who held up the perfect life of the Lord Jesus before the
uncoverted maintained that they must imitate it in order to find acceptance with
God. In other words, they made emulating Christ "the way of salvation" to lost
sinners. This is a fundamental error, which cannot be resisted too strenuously.
It repudiates the total depravity and spiritual helplessness of fallen man. It
denies the necessity for the new birth. It nullifies the atonement by
emphasizing Christ’s flawless life at the expense of His sacrificial death. It
substitutes works for faith, creature efforts for divine grace, man’s faulty
doings for the Redeemer’s finished work. If the Acts and epistles are searched
it will be revealed that the apostles never preached imitating Christ as the way
to obtain forgiveness of sins and secure peace with God.

But in recent generations the pendulum has swung to the opposite extreme. If, a
century ago, the example which Christ has left His people was made too much of,
our moderns make far too little of it; if they gave it a place in preaching to
the unsaved which Scripture does not warrant, we have failed to press it upon
Christians to the extent Scripture requires. If those a century ago are to be
blamed for misusing the example of Christ in connection with justification, we
are guilty of failing to use it in connection with sanctification. While it is
true that the moral perfections which Christ displayed during His earthly
sojourn are still extolled in many places, how rarely one hears (or reads) of
those who insist that emulating Christ is absolutely essential for the
believer’s preservation and ultimate salvation. Would not the great majority of
orthodox preachers be positively afraid to make any such assertion, lest they be
charged with legality?

The Lord Jesus Christ is not only a perfect and glorious Pattern of all graces,
holiness, virtue, and obedience, to be preferred above all others, but also He
alone is such. In the lives of the best of the saints, Scripture records what it
is our duty to avoid, as well as what we ought to follow. Sometimes one is
puzzled to know whether it is safe to conform to them or not. But God has
graciously supplied us with a sure rule which solves that problem. If we heed it
we will never be at a loss to see our duty. Holy men and women of Scripture are
to be imitated by us only as far as they were themselves conformed unto Christ
(1 Cor. 11:1). The best of their graces, the highest of their attainments, the
most perfect of their duties, were spoiled by blemishes; but in Christ there is
no imperfection whatever, for He had no sin and did no sin.

Christ is not only the perfect, but also the pattern Man; and therefore is His
example suitable for all believers. This remarkable fact presents a feature
which has not received the attention it deserves. There is nothing so
distinctive in personality as racial and national characteristics. The greatest
of men bear unmistakable marks of their heredity and environment. Racial
peculiarities are imperishable; to the last fiber of his being, Luther was a
German, Knox a Scot; and with all his largeness of heart, Paul was a Jew. In
sharp contrast, Jesus Christ rose above heredity and environment. Nothing local,
transient, national, or sectarian dwarfed His wondrous personality. Christ is
the only truly catholic man. He belongs to all ages and is related to all men,
because He is "the Son of man." This underlies the universal suitability of
Christ’s example to believers of all nations, who one and all may find in Him
the perfect realization of their ideal.
This is indeed a miracle, and exhibits a transcendent perfection in the Man
Christ Jesus which is rarely pondered. How remarkable that the converted
Englishman may find in Christ’s character and conduct a pattern as well-suited
to him as to a saved Chinese; that His example is as appropriate for the
regenerated Zulu as for a born-again German. The needs of Lord Bacon and Sir
Isaac Newton were as truly met in Christ as were those of the half-witted youth
who said, "I’m a poor sinner and nothing at all, But Jesus Christ is my all in
all." How remarkable that the example of Christ is as appropriate for believers
of the twentieth century as it was for those of the first, that it is as
suitable for a Christian child as for his grandparent!

He is appointed of God for this very purpose. One end why God sent His Son to
become flesh and tabernacle in the world was that He might set before us an
example in our nature, in One who was like unto us in all things, sin excepted.
Thereby He exhibited to us that renewal to His image in us, of that return to
Him from sin and apostasy, and of that holy obedience He requires of us. Such an
example was needful so that we might never be at a loss about the will of God in
His commandments, having a glorious representation of it before our eyes. That
could be given us no other way than in our own nature. The nature of angels was
not suited as an example of obedience, especially in the exercise of such graces
as we specially stand in need of in this world. What example could angels set us
in patience in afflictions or quietness in sufferings, when their nature is
incapable of such things? Nor could we have had a perfect example in our nature
except in one who was holy and "separate from sinners."

Many Scriptures present Christ as the believer’s Exemplar: "Take my yoke upon
you and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart" (Matthew 11:29),—learn by
the course of My life as well as by My words; "When he putteth forth his own
sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him" (John 10:4)—He requires
no more of us than He rendered Himself; "I have given you an example, that ye
should do as I have done to you" (John 13:15); "Now the God of patience and
consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ
Jesus" (Rom. 15:5); "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus"
(Phil. 2:5). "Let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking
unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" (Heb. 12:1-2); "But if, when
ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable unto
God. For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps" (1 Pet. 2:20-21); "He
that saith he abideth in him ought himself so to walk, even as he walked" (1
John 2:6).

Example is better than precept. Why? Because a precept is more or less an
abstraction, whereas an example sets before us a concrete representation;
therefore has more aptitude to incite the mind to imitation. The conduct of
those with whom we are in close association exerts a considerable influence upon
us, either for good or evil. The fact is clearly recognized in the Scriptures.
For example, we are enjoined, "Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a
furious man thou shalt not go: lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy
soul" (Prov. 22:24-25). It was for this reason that God commanded the Israelites
to utterly destroy all the inhabitants of Canaan, so that they might not learn
their evil ways and be contaminated by them (Deut. 7:2-4). Contrariwise, the
example of the pious exerts an influence for good; that is why they are called
"the salt of the earth."

In keeping with this principle, God has appointed the consideration of Christ’s
character and conduct as a special means to increase the piety in His people. As
their hearts contemplate His holy obedience, it has a peculiar efficacy to their
growing in grace beyond all other examples. It is in beholding the Lord Jesus by
faith that salvation comes to us. "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends
of the earth" (Isa. 45:22). Christ is presented before the sinner in the Gospel,
with the promise that whosoever believingly looks to Him shall not perish, but
have everlasting life (John 3:14-15). This is a special ordinance of God, and it
is made effectual by the Spirit to all who believe. In like manner, Christ is
presented to the saints as the grand Pattern of obedience and Example of
holiness, with the promise that as they contemplate Him as such we shall be
changed into His image (2 Cor. 3:18).
 
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Hi Seeking_Truth,

You are right about that Christianity is Relationship with Jesus. And this relationship is truely based on Trust (faith) and Love.

Relationship means talking with Him, trusting Him, loving Him.

Keep on talking with Him (Prayer), reading His Word (Love letters), (Trust) have faith that He loves you and wants you badly in His will. You can trust Him to lead and guide you.

Hope this helps
Your fellow brother in Christ with Love
ian
 
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Isa 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Isa 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

Isa 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Isa 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Isa 1:20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.


---- There are plenty of opressed people still in the world and a boillion or so people who say they are christians aren't doding what they could be doing about it, what then do you think God feels about this, waht do you feel about this ... is it really so surprising then that the spirit of truth is NOT uniting christianity with ALL the truth of god as promised by Jesus Christ , NOT at this time?
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into ALL TRUTH : for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will SHEW YOU things to come.

Isa 44:1 Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:

Isa 44:2 Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.

Isa 44:3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:

Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
 
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