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The "hour" spoken of in the gospels, is the week in which the religious
call "holy week". This "week" ( hour ) is the Devil's week of darkness !
The word "hour" is that period of time in which the Devil was allowed to
touch the Lord , and to make him suffer, and crucify him. This is that
week , which is called biblically , "his hour".

The Devil could not touch Jesus Christ our Lord, until "his hour" had come.

John 2:4 - John 7:30 - John 8:20.

We are told by Jesus Christ that "the hour" cometh, and now is, when the
true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth : for the
Father seeketh such to worship him > John 4:23.

We are also told in John 4:21 & 22 - that we are will not worship the
Father in this mountain, nor in the temple at Jerusalem , for ye worship ye
know not what.

That "hour" , which is the "Devil's week" of darkness, is the hour that had
come that the Son of man should be glorified - John 12:23. And the way in
which he
was to be glorified, was by his death which brings forth much fruit -Verse
24.

Jesus knew when his "hour" was come - John 13:1.

When the "hour" had come, Jesus knew that they would be scattered - John
16:32. In fact, during the time of "his hour", him being taken even
scattered his disciples - Matthew 26:31 & Mark 14:27 & John 16:32 & Mark
14:50 Matthew 26:45 & Mark 14:41 & Luke 22:14 & Luke 22:57 Peter's denial
three times. This was a week of "darkness" , and it climaxed with his death
, and being in the belly of the earth for three days and three nights.
Darkness occurred during this week , which was "the Devil's week" for his
"hour" of darkness. And darkness came upon the earth - Matthew 27:45 &
Mark
15:33 & Luke 22:53 = "week of darkness" = "The Devil's week" ! & Luke
23:44.

This was "the Devil's week" , because the "hour" had come , which was "his
hour" to give himself over to the suffering , and to be crucified, that he
may be glorified and the Son also may glorify the Father - John 17:1 - 5. J
ohn17:9 Jesus Christ prays -- ""I pray for them (verse 6 ) : I pray not for
the world, but for them which thou hast given me ; for they are thine".
John 17:16 - "They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world"

John 18:2 - Judas betrays Jesus Christ

John 18:12 - They take Jesus and bind him (allows) (his hour had come)

If you worship this "week" as a "holy week" you have been deceived !
This week about 2,000 years ago was "The Devil's week" of darkness. This was "his hour" ! Luke 22:53 & 54. If you worship this week as a "holy week"
you have been deceived, << John 4:20 - 22 - "Ye worship ye know not what"!

Love IN Christ - HErvey
 
"Z"

Let me show you something from the Word. >

1st commandment - to love God with all of our hearts, souls, minds and strength.

They that worship him "must" worship him in spirit and in truth - John 4:23 & 24.

Jesus talking to the woman in John 4:6 - 22

Verse 21 - "Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh when ye shall neither in this mountain , nor yet at Jersualem, whorship the Father"

Verse 22 - (Jesus says to her)"Ye worship ye know not what" ; (she responds back to Jesus) - "we know what we worship : for salvation is of the Jews"

The Word speaketh ! :)

Love IN Christ - Hervey
 
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what you spoke was opinion.
Opinion is far from truth.
To say that people who worship this week are decieved is shear stupidity. There is no Week of darkness.
The time (hour) has come that we now worship in Spirit and in Truth. Prior to His coming, The Jews worshipped through ritual. We now have access to the Father through the Son.

You OP made no sense other than showing that you have too much time on your hands. People make so many rules and regulations in their devotion to God. I guess you all "feel" more religious through it. But Jesus freed us from all of that.
The Time has come and now is that the True Worshippers worship is Spirit and Truth, Not through the calander or regulation.

Z
 
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What I spoke was truth, and you just do not believe the truth. :)

Those that worship the week of darkness , as a holy week , do not , and can not get their pratice of worship from the Word of God ! :(

The plain reason being, is that you can not find anywhere in the scriptures that this week is called a holy week ! :(

Nor the worship of this week as being a holy week ! :(

If it is not in the Word of God, then it is not of God ! :(

What is in His Word, is of God, because the Word is God ! :)

Love IN Christ - Hervey
 
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But you are making it into something that it isn't also. You call it a week of darkness. It wasn't, it was a week of Light. It was a week of Victory where through His death burial and ressurection, Jesus defeated the works of darkness and brought us into the family of God.

You do not know what I believe so to say that I do not believe "your" truth that I do not believe "The" truth.
You are incorrect.

Z
 
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"Z"

You are telling me your beliefs, and they are wrong. This week , called the hour of darkness , is a week of darkness.

Jesus didn't die until the end of the week , but during this week, was a week of darkness. It is not a holy week, nor should it be worshiped as such.

Jesus needed to die, and he needed to be raised from the dead, and he also need to suffer for us. But look at the verses that I gave in my original post. Let me ask you, who stood with Jesus Christ ? Name one ! Even Peter denied him during this time, and his disciples ran in the other direction out of fear for their lives, and Jesus himself "let" them take him , and Judas betrayed him, etc, etc. All of this needed to happen so that the OT prophecies were fulfilled, but that still does not make this week a holy week that should be worshiped !

In fact , in Galatians, Paul told them that he was in fear of them, because they again turn to weak and beggarly elements, and worship days, times, months and years. He also told them , that if they do this, that his labour was in vain. - Galatians 4:8 - 11.

If anyone is worshiping a week , and calling it a holy week , during the estimated time of the hour of his darkness - biblically speaking. Then those who do this type of worship - know not what they worship ! ! :(

The Word speaketh ! :)

Love IN Christ - Hervey
 
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Z

We are to worship God in Spirit and in truth. You claimed that this week biblically speaking , is a week of light. That is your worship, of what you claim is truth. But, that is not the truth ! It was not a week of light, it was a week of darkness , and I have shown the scriptures to prove this to be truth, and your belief of worship to be untruth !

When I say that I worship God, that does not mean that I have to go to a building to worship for any certain reason(s).

Worshiping God in truth, is claiming that God is one. That God is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ etc, etc.

Worshiping God in truth, is claiming that the "hour" mentioned within these records, is a week of darkness and not light, as you have said.

Your worship , is to worship what you know not. Just like the Word speaketh.

Love IN Christ - Hervey
 
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Hervey,
You speak in circles and Again, I say that you know nothing of me or My Worship of God.

I do not worship a week or any such thing. I worship God and God alone.
I did not say anything of where I worship so where do you get off making such claims? I simply asked you for clairification of your statements and you have been unable to do so.
You are in error in your judgement of me.

Z
 
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Z

I thought I explained myself very clearly. I am not talking about where you worship, but "what" you worship. YOU said , that the week mentioned in my post was light and not darkness. And I fully explained that it was a week of darkness (hour). I am only going by what you have told me , and I am not commenting on what you have not said !

This conversation was not suppose to be about you ! It was suppose to be about what the Word says. But you deny what the Word says, so I commented on your denial, and statement.

Love IN Christ - Hervey
 
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The word doesn't say that it was a week of darkness. That is your interpretation. Sure, when Jesus died, darkness (as in lack of physical light) fell on the earth. But that was but for a few hours (as in 60 minutes).

I do not worship a week, I do not even pay attention to what other denominations call a "holy week". You say that this is not about me but you make accusations against ME.

I do not deny the word, I just do not understand your interpretation of it.

Z
 
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Z

A couple of comments here. You are right, the Word does not say "a week of darkness". But the events that took place , took a week.

Also - You say that you do not understand, and that is one thing. But you said more than just that ! You also said other things like - "that my explanation was nothing more than my own opinion".

This is where you stand in judgement. I judged that your comments , that what I explained is nothing more than my own opinion, is not only incorrect on your part. But, you did not counter with any scriptures to the contrary. If you do not believe what I have explained within my original post. Then at the very least, use scripture to show me where I was in error !

Love IN Christ - Hervey
 
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So I am expected to take your opinion as the word of God? I think not.

Why would I need to counter your opinion with scripture? It is only your opinion. And what is so special of your "week".

Did Jesus not fulfill the plan of God? Did God not arrange for the events that transpired? Why are you calling God's plan darkness? How else was Jesus to purchase our redemption?

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Z

I am not stating that God's plan for salvation was darkness ! Jesus Christ took all the sins of the world upon him, so that we could be redeemed, and receive salvation. But many look at this period of time as a time of light (yourself), and others look at this week as a "holy week" of worship. The disciples, nor Jesus Christ himself considered the actions that took place as light, nor did he or his disciples ever consider this week in which they ran away in fear, as a holy week - biblically speaking !

What I have been saying, and what you have been denying, is that during this week mentioned within the scriptures, and the explanations I gave in my oringinal post, show a week of darkness, known as the "hour".

Remember this "Z" > If you make any statement whatsoever about God and His Word . YOU should always be prepared to give biblical references to support your beliefs ! If you are not willing, or you can not support your beliefs, then your beliefs are not worth the words you type on this board, or speak when speaking to others about the Word of God , and His will !

Love IN Christ - Hervey
 
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Remember this "Z" > If you make any statement whatsoever about God and His Word . YOU should always be prepared to give biblical references to support your beliefs ! If you are not willing, or you can not support your beliefs, then your beliefs are not worth the words you type on this board, or speak when speaking to others about the Word of God , and His will !


So where is you reference for the "devil's hour or week or darkness"?
Come on Hervey, You come to your own conclusions and try to pass them off as the Word?

I do not believe in or worship a Holy Week nor do I follow some week of light (as you stated) I worship God and fellowship with Him daily. I read His word daily. Yet I do not condemn other religions for their church holidays either. I leave the judging of men's hearts to God.


Perhaps you should do a better job in explaining your OP.

Z
 
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