Is it ok to lie sometimes.

StormeTorque

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Of course it would be ok to lie in certain circumstances. If, by telling a lie, you would protect the lives of others, then I would do so without hesitation, even if I believed lying was a sin. And if God had a problem with that, well, I frankly wouldn't want to worship a deity who would have preferred me to give somebody away to certain death. I would face judgement knowing I did the right thing in my opinion.

However, that is not to say that I don't believe that lying for your own personal gain is correct.
 
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Captain_Scott said:
uhh scripture guy, THe bible says "thou shall not Lie" THere is no exceptsion attacted to that verse. (exodus 20:16) It is NOT ok to lie at all. Sin is sin.
I disagree. There are stories in the OT where people lie to protect the innocent and the weak. To always tell the truth would be complying with the letter of the law but not the spirit. Just as Jesus collected food and healed on the Sabbath, it is ok to lie when necessary.
 
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Doctrine1st said:
If he was 100% human, was he capable of lying?
He was 100% human, but He did not ever tell a lie.

Hebrews 2:14-18
Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, [15] and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. [16] For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham. [17] Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. [18] For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.
 
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JohnR7 said:
He was 100% human, but He did not ever tell a lie.

Hebrews 2:14-18
Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, [15] and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. [16] For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham. [17] Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. [18] For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.
Well, I don't know, I see that as debatable. If for example we take these verses in consideration:

Leviticus 26:44-45 "Yet, even then, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them or spurn them so as to destroy them, annulling My covenant with them: for I the L-RD am their G-d. I will remember in their favor the covenant with the ancients, whom I freed from the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations to be their G-d: I, the L-RD." He will not reject us, ever. He will never annull the covenant.

Deuteronomy 4:31 "For the L-RD your G-d is a merciful G-d; He will not forsake you, nor destroy you, nor forget the covenant of your fathers which He swore to them." G-d will never destroy us, we are His eternal people, His servant Israel.

Deuteronomy 29:28 "The secret things belong to the L-RD our G-d; but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this Torah."

Judges 2:1 "And an angel of the L-RD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said,[delivering G-d's messege] I made you go out of Egypt, and have brought you to the land which I swore to your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you."

Jer 31:36 "Thus says the L-RD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth explored below, then I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, says the L-RD."

The heavens above have not been measured, nor will they ever fully be measured. The foundations of the earth have not been fully searched, either in Jesus' day or our own. Israel decendents are still THE people Israel. The Covenant and the people are eternal.



If these kinds of claims were made, but now that Old covenant indeed has been revoked for the New, how can it be described other not keeping a word? It is debatable.

~take care
 
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everbody can think of a situation where it seems better to lie.

If you were hiding jews in your attick during the holocaust you wouldn't just say.

I'M HIDING JEWS UPSTAIRS DO YOU WANT TO SEE.


In that situation you could just hesitate to answer.
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