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Actually only one question directly about the convention....

I noticed that my mother-in-law's name tag said "Grow closer to God" or "Walk with God" <--think that's it.

Why did it say that, and not, "Walk with Jehovah?". It seems to me, as big a deal as you make out God's name, and how it should be used, that your name tags would reflect that...

Just curious.....

I'm asking here, because we have an agreement not to talk to each other about our different beliefs---to much history in the family(with my husband and his parents) and questions get taken wrong very easily....
 

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Actually only one question directly about the convention....

I noticed that my mother-in-law's name tag said "Grow closer to God" or "Walk with God" <--think that's it.

Why did it say that, and not, "Walk with Jehovah?". It seems to me, as big a deal as you make out God's name, and how it should be used, that your name tags would reflect that...

Just curious.....

I'm asking here, because we have an agreement not to talk to each other about our different beliefs---to much history in the family(with my husband and his parents) and questions get taken wrong very easily....
Hi Blessedbe,

--Hope you're well--

I'm not really sure of the exact process for choosing name badge titles but they are different every year and there have been conventions that have included the name "Jehovah" in the title (on the name badge).


LF,
 
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I, for one, certainly enjoyed the convention that our congregation was assigned to. Many people noticed our badges to and from the convention site, and we were able to entertain some good questions and invite such ones.

For those who are not aware, JW's hold annual conventions in most large and even smaller cities around the world. In the Northern Hemisphere, they are usually held in the summers and in the Southern Hemisphere, they are usually held in the winters.

The one that my family went to was in a major city and there were perhaps 12,000 in attendance. In some cities, the arena, or civic center convention site may be rented out every weekend for almost the whole summer for the many hundreds of congregations to attend for their own particular 3 day weekend.

Millions of people will be attending this year in hundreds of languages.

Once upon a time, there was only one or a handful of conventions. In the late 1950's, Yankee Stadium and the Polo Grounds hosted an annual convention with an attendance of over 250,000. This is no longer feasible with the tremendous growth, and so today, thousands of annual conventions are held.

There we receive spiritual nourishment and are trained in practical ways as to how to share the good news with still others. Interviews, demonstrations, talks, and even a drama are all part of the program. We also receive new publications that benefit us and others to be obedient to God.

There is still much of the summer left and many conventions will be held in various parts of the world. All are invited. Sessions are free.....as there are no collections plates. Simply ask one of JW's in your area as location and dates.
 
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Lared,

you gotta be an elder!! LOL That was quite the advertisement! anyway, do you have any idea why the name badges would have God on them instead of Jehovah? I would think that the WTS would make a point of them having the name Jehovah instead of God. Especially because of the questions to and from the convention, as you mentioned you had. Anyway, I was just curious.

I notice that the JW's on the board here have been absent for a few days. I figured that most of you have been at the convention(or at one of the many it seems). My in-laws went to the one in Cleveland or therabouts. I remember the original one was at Cedar Point.
 
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Just because Jehovah's Witnesses pray for God's name to be hallowed or be made sacred (set apart) just as Jesus instructed in the Lord's Prayer.....and that we imitate Jesus in making God's name known........we also recognize that it is not a charm like an amulet.

Of the hundreds of Witnesses that I know in my area......none asked a question like yours. Perhaps because we know the only true God.......(John 17:3), and we equate God with Jehovah. So whether it be God or Jehovah.....the important thing for all people around the globe to do now.....is to walk with God. That is......to have a relationship with him and to do his will, .......just as faithful ones in the Bible did.

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lared said:
Just because Jehovah's Witnesses pray for God's name to be hallowed or be made sacred (set apart) just as Jesus instructed in the Lord's Prayer.....and that we imitate Jesus in making God's name known........we also recognize that it is not a charm like an amulet.

Of the hundreds of Witnesses that I know in my area......none asked a question like yours. Perhaps because we know the only true God.......(John 17:3), and we equate God with Jehovah. So whether it be God or Jehovah.....the important thing for all people around the globe to do now.....is to walk with God. That is......to have a relationship with him and to do his will, .......just as faithful ones in the Bible did.

Lared


I don't mean to offend, and I'm certainly not suggesting that you believe it's a "charm"(far be it for me to suggest that!! :) ), I was just curious. I also equate God with Jehovah, it's just odd to me(and maybe it's just me...) that the nametags would use the 'name' God. I'v never once heard my in-laws refer to God as "God" since they became JW's. They have always without fail spoken about God using Jehovah. It's almost as if it's a mantra or something, like if they say "God" instead of "Jehovah", they are slipping. LOL
That may be why I found it strange, because of their(my in-laws) peculararities--and they are pecular, but not just because they are JW...

anyway, thanks for the input :) Hope all is well with you....
 
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blessedbe said:
I don't mean to offend, and I'm certainly not suggesting that you believe it's a "charm"(far be it for me to suggest that!! :) ), I was just curious. I also equate God with Jehovah, it's just odd to me(and maybe it's just me...) that the nametags would use the 'name' God. I'v never once heard my in-laws refer to God as "God" since they became JW's. They have always without fail spoken about God using Jehovah. It's almost as if it's a mantra or something, like if they say "God" instead of "Jehovah", they are slipping. LOL
That may be why I found it strange, because of their(my in-laws) peculararities--and they are pecular, but not just because they are JW...

anyway, thanks for the input :) Hope all is well with you....
In larger cities inhabited by a wide variety of people......some people may be inquisitive by the name badge.....Walk With God.....and ask.....which god? Then we have a fine opportunity to tell them......Jehovah....the Almighty God of the Bible, and then also invite them to one of the sessions.

When individuals see such a wide variety of people, of all races and ages, worshiping God in unity....it has a strong impact. And that these conventions, with the same basic core of instructions are held in thousands of cities around the world is quite unique. Have you ever attended?
 
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QUOTE]In larger cities inhabited by a wide variety of people......some people may be inquisitive by the name badge.....Walk With God.....and ask.....which god? Then we have a fine opportunity to tell them......Jehovah....the Almighty God of the Bible, and then also invite them to one of the sessions.[/QUOTE]
You have a point there, pretty sneaky......lol(just kidding)

When individuals see such a wide variety of people, of all races and ages, worshiping God in unity....it has a strong impact. And that these conventions, with the same basic core of instructions are held in thousands of cities around the world is quite unique. Have you ever attended?

I'm sure it does have a strong impact, and it is unique, I'll give you that. Doesn't make it true, but it is something many people would have a desire to be a part of. I can understand the draw, belonging to such a large, united group of believers. I understand exactly why my in-laws were drawn to the JW's, and why they became JW's. It fits their personality to "T". The "us against the world" attitude is attractive to some. Please don't take this wrong, I'm not trying to be offensive, I'm trying to be objective. :)

No, I have never attended. I have done exactly what the Watchtower said to to, I was like the Bereans,and searched to scriptures to make sure of what was true, and found the Watchtower...lacking. :( I wanted it to be true, I wanted an easy answer...."this way is the truth".....but I did not find it in the Watchtower. I have read through the history of the Witnesses book, I have read many of the Watchtower and Awake magazines, I have read through "reasoning with the scriptures", I have asked questions of my in-laws, and those on this forum, and in the end, I have to respectfully say "no" to the Watchtower and the JW's.

I have been a Christian all my life, was raised in a christian home, never heard a bad word about the JW's, never even met one until my husband's parents told us they had become JW's; so naturally my curiousity was peaked..."why them?" why go from agnostic to JW? They told us it was because the JW's had answers to every question they asked, and every hard question they could think of. So I started looking into it. I knew that christians in general don't think highly of JW's, but I don't put a whole lot of stock into things like that, so I just started researching it on my own. Actually for several years I didn't think twice about them becoming JW's. I pretty much thought that it was another denomination(like the 7th day adventists or such) with some unorthodox beliefs. It wasn't until I had my children and realized that I wasn't truly "being" the christian I claimed to be and I needed to re-dedicate my life to God, that I started thinking about my in-laws and their decision. And to make a long story short, that is where I am right now....3 years later, closer to God than ever, much more sure of my beliefs, some of which are radically different then 3 years ago, and happy with myself.
So anyway, that's why I have never been to a convention and that is why I ask questions of you and other JW's on the forum. maybe it's morbid curiousity, maybe I just want to make sure I've made the right decisions, I don't know....... :)
 
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lared said:
In larger cities inhabited by a wide variety of people......some people may be inquisitive by the name badge.....Walk With God.....and ask.....which god? Then we have a fine opportunity to tell them......Jehovah....the Almighty God of the Bible, and then also invite them to one of the sessions.

When individuals see such a wide variety of people, of all races and ages, worshiping God in unity....it has a strong impact. And that these conventions, with the same basic core of instructions are held in thousands of cities around the world is quite unique. Have you ever attended?


AAAARRRGGGGHHHHH! I SOOO dislike computers sometimes.....I had this long reply all typed out and tried to send it, and LOST it. I must have spend 20 minutes on it. It was inspired, I tell you! :D

ah well, guess it wasn't meant to be...it's 12:30 am and I'm beat..I'll have to try again tomorrow...... :wave:
 
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Being one of JW's is not for everyone.

But it is for roughly 6 and half million people spread around the globe.

They are a united peaceful global brotherhood. In other words, they are 'one'.......just as Jesus requested. Not only are they united via Christian neutrality but also are united via beliefs.

That is why we call ourselves brothers and sisters. We are a family. And we have the same heavenly Father......Almighty God Jehovah. (common modern-day English pronunciation)

Just as you would imagine all the angels in heaven to be united in peace and beliefs, so is God's family on Earth.

And love prompts us to take our time, energy, and funds to deliver the good news of the kingdom to our neighbors. (Matthew 24:14)
 
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blessedbe said:
AAAARRRGGGGHHHHH! I SOOO dislike computers sometimes.....I had this long reply all typed out and tried to send it, and LOST it. I must have spend 20 minutes on it. It was inspired, I tell you! :D

ah well, guess it wasn't meant to be...it's 12:30 am and I'm beat..I'll have to try again tomorrow...... :wave:


LOL, apparently, it did post my first response, but it never showed up on my computer. Man, computers are a pain!

At any rate, what I was trying to post is there for you Lared--whew, I'm glad I don't have to write it all over again--- :clap:
 
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lared said:
Being one of JW's is not for everyone.

But it is for roughly 6 and half million people spread around the globe.

They are a united peaceful global brotherhood. In other words, they are 'one'.......just as Jesus requested. Not only are they united via Christian neutrality but also are united via beliefs.

That is why we call ourselves brothers and sisters. We are a family. And we have the same heavenly Father......Almighty God Jehovah. (common modern-day English pronunciation)

Just as you would imagine all the angels in heaven to be united in peace and beliefs, so is God's family on Earth.

And love prompts us to take our time, energy, and funds to deliver the good news of the kingdom to our neighbors. (Matthew 24:14)


you make it sound like it's "ok" if I decide not to be a JW ;) , .....so tactful.....
 
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Being one of <fill in the blank (Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc.)> is not for everyone.

But it is for roughly <fill in number> million people spread around the globe.

They are a united peaceful global brotherhood. In other words, they are 'one'.......just as Jesus requested. Not only are they united via Christian neutrality but also are united via beliefs.

That is why we call ourselves brothers and sisters. We are a family. And we have the same heavenly Father......Almighty God
_&#1497;&#1492;&#1493;&#1492;/Yahweh." Why use a false pronunciation when the more correct pronunciation is known? "Just because everybody does it," is an extremely poor reason to knowingly mispronounce God's name.

Just as you would imagine all the angels in heaven to be united in peace and beliefs, so is God's family on Earth.

And love prompts us to take our time, energy, and funds to deliver the good news of the kingdom to our neighbors. (Matthew 24:14) And millions of Presbyterians, Methodists, Baptists and other denominations are doing exactly that.

While certain groups are knocking on doors distributing literature, I wonder how many hospitals, clinics, schools, universities, home for the homeless, care centers for abuse victims, etc. they are operating?
 
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Why tell tales of a united brotherhood when ALL of the major religions support wars where Catholics kill Catholics and Methodists kill Methodists and Lutherans Luthers just because they live in another country and are on a different side of a war. In Ruwanda. Hundreds of thousands of Catholics were killing each other, One tribe tried to completely annihilate the other tribe. The reports are that even some of the clergy were in on the killing. PBS just ran a documentary on it this weekend.
 
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Der Alter said:
And love prompts us to take our time, energy, and funds to deliver the good news of the kingdom to our neighbors. (Matthew 24:14) And millions of Presbyterians, Methodists, Baptists and other denominations are doing exactly that.


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Lared: I always suspected he had a sense of humour. :D ^_^
 
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The quote on the name tag is always one scripture or another, so it depends on what the scripture says. The JW bible uses God's name (The tetragrammaton in hebrew, Jehovah, sometimes translated as Yahweh), but also calls God by his title sometimes.

God's name is put in the old testimate where the hebrew tetragrammaton appears. Because the Tetragrammaton is a hebrew spelling, I'm not sure how they decided what would be "Jehovah" and what would be "God"

JWs settled on Jehovah in agreement with the King James translation of the bible found (using crosswalk.com's online study bible):
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[font=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Ex 6:3 - "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.[/font]"

[font=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Ps 83:18 - "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. [/font]"

[font=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Isa 12:2 - "Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation."[/font]

[font=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Isa 26:4 - "Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:"[/font]
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In short... they used the title "God" in that scripture because the translators of that bible thought the word used translated into God's Title rather than his name.
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Hi Gregorian
You are correct. The NWT always uses Jehovah where the YHWH appears. This shows the distinction between where the proper name was used and when the generic title God was used. Of course the Isrealites knew no other True God except for Jehovah. They were surrounded by false god's and men who had power such as judges who were also refered to as god's Moses was also called a god because of his use of Jehovah given power in dealing with Pharoah.

It is far more difficult to find out the truth of what is being conveyed when other bibles do not use the personal name where it belonds instead using GOD,God,god, lord and Lord or LORD interchangablly. While I use several bible translations for study I find the NWT to be a very good translation.
Sincerely, just human
 
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