Kent Hovind Debate, help me out here.

ValenII said:

I see you need hard-core evidences not arguments am I right?

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no **** sherlock.

Arikay said:

Yes, thats what evidence is, data, or information that supports your claims. Scientific Evidence would be prefered.

What you have made are claims. You now need to support them. Repeating the claim is not support. You need to back them up with evidence.

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OK I'll try my best to upload them... But beforehand I'll show them to the right persons... I'll return after I done so... and back-up my claims...
As of now, I should stay here for a while to observe other arguments. I need to sharpen up my sword. At least you've got a preview. Have a nice day...

Sounds good.

A request is that you post them in a new thread to make over all viewing easier.

ValenII said:

Hypothesis1 about the flood:

Noah was told to prepare an ark or ship enough to hold animals not greater than the capacity of the ship. In the Bible he was given the opportunity to collect pairs of each kind. Since Noah is not superman, he cannot collect all species. Therefore those left species became extinct.

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So you are admitting that Genesis 7:14-16 is false and not all flesh with the breath of life was saved. Since you have realized that this part of the story is false why not get up to date with the last 200 years of science and admit that there never was a global flood?

The Frumious Bandersnatch

ValenII said:

I see you need hard-core evidences not arguments am I right?

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So far all you have presented are unsupported assertions and not even arguments.

The Frumious Bandersnatch

Frumious Bandersnatch said:

So you are admitting that Genesis 7:14-16 is false and not all flesh with the breath of life was saved. Since you have realized that this part of the story is false why not get up to date with the last 200 years of science and admit that there never was a global flood?

The Frumious Bandersnatch

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Please read Gen 7 - 8 and you will realize that you are wrong. You did not read the whole story of the flood. You only take few passages and distort it.

ValenII said:

OK I'll try my best to upload them... But beforehand I'll show them to the right persons... I'll return after I done so... and back-up my claims...
As of now, I should stay here for a while to observe other arguments. I need to sharpen up my sword. At least you've got a preview. Have a nice day...

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If you ever get your sword sharped there are a few threads on this board you could try it out on. We have shown that trace fossils falsifiy the myth of a worldwide flood.

http://www.christianforums.com/t46140&page=1

We have shown how biogeography falsifies the myth of a worldwide flood

http://www.christianforums.com/t40474&page=1

Of course the fossil record falsifies the myth of a worldwide flood as was already pointed out.

http://www.christianforums.com/t42599

Many aspects of the world's geology falsify the worldwide flood myth and a few have been discussed here

http://www.christianforums.com/t41209

On all these threads you will see that YEC have no real answers for the multiple falsifications of the myth that the flood of Noah was worldwide and only a fraction of the mass of evidence that falsifies the worldwide flood is presented in those threads.

If you present any real evidence from any aspect of science that can only be explained by a worldwide flood it will be the first ever presented anywhere.

The Frumious Bandersnatch

14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.

ValenII said:

Please read Gen 7 - 8 and you will realize that you are wrong. You did not read the whole story of the flood. You only take few passages and distort it.

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What's distorted? You wrote

Since Noah is not superman, he cannot collect all species. Therefore those left species became extinct.

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Genesis 7 says

7:14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.

7:15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

7:16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.

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Sounds to me like all life was supposed to be saved. Look's like God really blew it here since nearly all the species from the Permian, Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous, Eocine and Miocene and many others apparent became extinct either during or right after the flood.

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The Frumious Bandersnatch