Show us your fossils

thats the sound of goalposts shifting

you see, now you have to explain why god didn't design like fallible human designers (for the sake of argument, lets ignore shared errors like pseudogenes) in constantly improving upon his designs - please remember that any criticism of this hypothesis can be refuted by the creationist escape clause:

god works in mysterious ways/ his ways are inscrutable

Somebody beat me to Cynognathus. So.......



Any day now John

JohnR7 said:

It must have been that mustang evidence for evolution that did it.

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While that picture is a good example of evolution (of cars in this case), I was more talking about: http://www.christianforums.com/t720811&page=9

Lucas, could you be a pall and post those shellfish thingies you got?

This is the famous fossil called "Bitte nicht berühren".

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JohnR7 said:

It must have been that mustang evidence for evolution that did it.

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It seems to have been the talkorigins.org website that convinced you. After all, it was the statement that "populations evolve" that you said was true.

I notice you haven't disputed any of the fossils. Below is a series of individuals connecting 2 species.

Here's some websites:
http://www.gcssepm.org/special/cuffey_05.htm
http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/babinski/whale_evolution.html

JohnR7 said:

It must have been that mustang evidence for evolution that did it.

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BTW, the mustang series does show evolution -- descent with modification. In this case it is in artifacts made by humans, not plants or animals. But look at the first mustang and the last. By themselves, they would look like completely different cars with no connection. But when you lay out the sequence, you see the transitional series of species -- production vehicles -- between them. Now, if you went back to the blueprints and CAD drawings of the design teams, you would see the transitional individuals connecting the species. These are the modified designs that never made it to full scale production, but do provide links between the production models.

In this case, John, natural selection took place 1) in the minds of the humans of the design team and 2) the marketplace. But the result is still descent with modification or evolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens

. It is important to note however, that humans only share a common ancestor with these and are not descended directly from them. Biologists have compared a sequence of DNA base pairs between humans and chimpanzees, and estimated an overall genetic difference of 5% [1] (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/99/21/13633). It has been estimated that the human lineage diverged from that of chimpanzees about 5 million years ago, and from gorillas about 8 million years ago. However, recent news reports of a hominid skull approximately 7 million years old already showing a divergence from the ape lineage strongly suggests an earlier diverge

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JohnR7 said:

It must have been that mustang evidence for evolution that did it.

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Nice cars. Is this supposed to refute the transitional fossils that have been shown to you?

This question has been asked before, but what exactly do you expect a "transitional fossil" to look like?

See, that mustang evolution poster doesn't count - there is obviously a lack of transitional "fossils" from the 80's - it's almost as if the designers were ashamed of their work.

hee hee

I'm actually missing one big old fossil in this thread.


John, what happend to you? And is this what you are looking for? Would you like something diffrent?

Even if John doesn't want to play, are there any other creationists who'd like to comment on the fossils presented? After all, they're the one who continually claim "there are no transitionals," and yet heres several pages of just a few examples of many known fossil samples.

(oh and that fossilized "please don't touch" is scary!)

Split Rock said:

This question has been asked before, but what exactly do you expect a "transitional fossil" to look like?

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Its not uncommon for there to be demands of sphinx's and the like.

In other news, I just had to change my password because it was apparently 34 years old. Neat.

Mistermystery said:

This is the famous fossil called "Bitte nicht berühren".

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lol. please don't confuse the americans

Jet Black said:

lol. please don't confuse the americans

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Finally, someone got it...

USincognito said:

Even if John doesn't want to play, are there any other creationists who'd like to comment on the fossils presented? After all, they're the one who continually claim "there are no transitionals," and yet heres several pages of just a few examples of many known fossil samples.

(oh and that fossilized "please don't touch" is scary!)

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Sure sure.... Perhaps you just edited that into your post

Sorry us. Missed your responce.