Black Phase said:Perhaps it is so, 7891b, that homosexual parenting may 'rub off'' onto the most frail of personalities, but I think that most people that turn out to be homosexuals are not pressured by 'family' necissarily, but by media, peers, school (?). I feel that it would usually have to be far more than one, even if ongoing, source.
Congratulations, happy, on seeing the light. I have one question however that I would be curious to know if you are willing to answer.
Did you truly enjoy the lifestyle of the homosexual? Was it enjoyable when you practiced it, or somehow did you, consciously or not, feel something missing, perhaps of some sort of dark realization that you were not, in fact, satisfied?
I ask you this because I know people who thought that they were, at one time homosexual, only to realize when they were removed from the unhealthy lifestyle that they were living, and placed into a healthy hetero sexual lifestyle, that they felt something right 'click'. The people that I speak of were forced subtly into the situation and then fed trash that 'confirmed' their homosexuality.[/QUOTE
Looking back I can honestly say that I did not enjoy it. Sometimes I am ashamed to think and say some of things that I did but I look at that whole thing as a learning experience for me and hopefully for others who read this as well. I remember sitting on my neighbors porch and thinking to myself to myself "who would want to live a lifestyle that you have to keep secret" or "live with the risk of getting beat up or ridiculed"? I asked God one question and I got my answer granted it was something that I didn't want to hear but afterall, He is the Boss. "I asked Him, if being a homosexual is wrong in Your eyes than show me in the bible? He did. It was a struggle after that, but I got thru it with no counseling or medications, just me and God. And I can say I am much happier. I realized that God loved/loves me and so did other christians because they helped me get out of a destructive life and into a safe one.
allieisme said:Ok, lets all remember that the fellowship isnt the best place for a debate/discussion to happen.. And remember everybody be nice, and also remember everyone has their own opinions. That wasnt directed towards anybody in specific, I just wanted to make sure that everyone knows to be friendly
Happy when you asked if you should be gay because you didnt play with dolls, or anything like that when you were younger.. I dont think that psalmist was generalizing it like that, they were just stating that about their own brother.
AND.. here is my question on the homosexuality topic.. Here is where I have a couple of issues~~not necessarily going either way, with I agree or disagree:
Sure, it says in the Bible, that homosexuality is bad/sinful.
Leviticus 18:22
*You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.*
Leviticus 20:13
*If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.*
I could go on, with scriptures about it, but here it is.. If becoming/being gay or lesbian is wrong, why are they so many people in the world that are so called "corrupted"? Sure the devil sends you temptation, and its up to you to resist or fall into it, but it just seems like there is more than just a temptation issue here. I could see if only a few people "thought" they were gay but there are millions out there. So I dont know how to take that, is there something missing chemically in their brain or not? is it truly a sin or not? Are all gay people going to hell, because they chose otherwise? Gay people look at hetrosexual people the same way as one would look at a gay person. Its wrong.
Ok, I'm sorry, I think I'm starting to confuse myself here, with all of these twists and turns in my little statement . Sorry.
I could try and explain better, I just dont want anything that I have to say come out the wrong way, because I know what the bible says about homosexuality, but I for one dont know if I can truly just accept that. So, if there are questions, or comments on what I had to say, please be kind
mnmcandiez said:LOOK i am christian and i dont believe in homosexuality and i just wanted to know why some people do?? i think it totally wrong and un christian!!!! Post what u believe
psalmist said:Surely we all know that there is no barrier to the love of God.
Psalmist, I'm curious as to whether you believe that you can be saved-(going to Heaven) and be homosexual?