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I am not one to cut down anybody - and I do not want to trash this man's name as I have seen done to others. I just want some information please.

I belong to the Reformed Church of America. Today, Just today, I found out that this Pastor, Robert Schuller, who Pastors the Crystal Cathedral, and the famous televised 'Hour of Power' is part of the denomination I attend, only it is the US Synod (Im Canadian).

I have heard some poor things about some teachings and am concerned. I have also read excellence about him also.

Can anyone with some information give me some input?

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I was raised on Robert Schuller. My mom was in LOVE with the man, and actually met him. She made us watch him when we were growing up. That was our church service, on our living room floor, watching The Hour of Power.

The guy, as I have grown up and learned what it really is to know God and my savior, is a wack job....

Sorry, he is into new agy, feel good christianity. The power of Positive thinking. He is like the Tony Robins of Christianity.- Garbage, stay away.

Peace- EJO
 
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EJO said:
The guy, as I have grown up and learned what it really is to know God and my savior, is a wack job....

Sorry, he is into new agy, feel good christianity. The power of Positive thinking. He is like the Tony Robins of Christianity.- Garbage, stay away.

Peace- EJO

I was afraid of that. Though I can't say I'm surprised.
 
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EJO said:
I was raised on Robert Schuller. My mom was in LOVE with the man, and actually met him. She made us watch him when we were growing up. That was our church service, on our living room floor, watching The Hour of Power.

The guy, as I have grown up and learned what it really is to know God and my savior, is a wack job....

Sorry, he is into new agy, feel good christianity. The power of Positive thinking. He is like the Tony Robins of Christianity.- Garbage, stay away.

Peace- EJO

Do you mean we are to feel bad?

Do you mean that we should think negotive?
 
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SUNSTONE said:
Do you mean we are to feel bad?

Do you mean that we should think negotive?
Not at all. BUT "feel good" theology is both deceptive and dangerous. There is an assumption made by the "feel good" camp that if you think positive, good karma will arise. That is the kind of doctrine I expect to hear from Wiccans, not Christians. There is nothing wrong with positive thinking but the assumption that "I am never disappointed all day" is pure garbage. We have good and bad times in life and the happy clappy pseudo theology makes NO allowances for this. It leads to a feeling that God hates the individual going through trials. And guess who wins at that point? :(
 
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calgal said:
Not at all. BUT "feel good" theology is both deceptive and dangerous. There is an assumption made by the "feel good" camp that if you think positive, good karma will arise. That is the kind of doctrine I expect to hear from Wiccans, not Christians. There is nothing wrong with positive thinking but the assumption that "I am never disappointed all day" is pure garbage. We have good and bad times in life and the happy clappy pseudo theology makes NO allowances for this. It leads to a feeling that God hates the individual going through trials. And guess who wins at that point? :(

The bible says count it all joy, when you go through trials.

I believe there is a time to morn, don't get me wrong.

But being positive is a choice. You go through problems, you could just let them get to you, and as a result you will be troubled. But keeping my thoughts on the things above, I have this inner joy, that is just mind blowing. People probably look at me and think I am being fake, but thats not the case at all.

How does choseing to be happy, lead one to beleive that God hates them when they go through the trial?
 
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The bible says count it all joy, when you go through trials.

I believe there is a time to morn, don't get me wrong.

But being positive is a choice. You go through problems, you could just let them get to you, and as a result you will be troubled. But keeping my thoughts on the things above, I have this inner joy, that is just mind blowing. People probably look at me and think I am being fake, but thats not the case at all.

How does choseing to be happy, lead one to beleive that God hates them when they go through the trial?

There is a difference between choosing to be happy as a person and the "Feel good theology" that needed to be explained. Sorry for the omission. I get accused of being an optimist too: not that it is a bad thing :D "Feel good theology" is a feelings based rather questionable at best theology that does teach a skewed vision of God and of what Christianity is all about. happy all the time is not normal any more than constant depression. Positive and happy are different in my view. :)
 
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calgal said:
There is a difference between choosing to be happy as a person and the "Feel good theology" that needed to be explained. Sorry for the omission. I get accused of being an optimist too: not that it is a bad thing :D "Feel good theology" is a feelings based rather questionable at best theology that does teach a skewed vision of God and of what Christianity is all about. happy all the time is not normal any more than constant depression. Positive and happy are different in my view. :)

I heard a pastor say "You have two choices, you can either laugh, or you can cry."

If what this man is teaching, is to choose to be happy/positive, even when things are going so well. Then I certianly don't see anything wrong with that.
The bible says "a broken spirit who can bear?"

I believe that Jesus came down here on earth for a number of different reasons.
1. Obviously to die for our sins.
But the other main one was so that our joy might be made in full. He showed us the way, which isn't the worlds way, nor does it make since to the world.

I was working today, and I was thinking about what a difference Jesus has made on me.
I have the same problems as my fellow coworkers, the difference is,they cry, and I laugh.
I am a server, and sometimes I get bad tips,we all do. I heard a worker cuss under there breath, and really take it to heart. I opened a few tips, and it they were really weak, I literally laughed, and shook my head. Thats it! It didn't bother me, I was even joyfull about it.

My boss freaks out and starts yelling, and its definitly not justified. Coworkers panic, and when there confronted, they make excuses. When I am confronted, I stay calm, and say "yes sir" (a whatever you say sir, type attitude). I say it, and move on, while staying focused on my job.

I could go on and on. I have a hard time finding out where to be sad. When does one be sad? :confused:
 
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I am not one to cut down anybody - and I do not want to trash this man's name as I have seen done to others. I just want some information please.

I belong to the Reformed Church of America. Today, Just today, I found out that this Pastor, Robert Schuller, who Pastors the Crystal Cathedral, and the famous televised 'Hour of Power' is part of the denomination I attend, only it is the US Synod (Im Canadian).

I have heard some poor things about some teachings and am concerned. I have also read excellence about him also.

Can anyone with some information give me some input?

Thanks

HTD

I know that one tenet he has grabbed hold of in the last few years is a universalist concept of salvation. That reason alone is enough to stay away from his teachings. There are many other reasons too. Here is a link --- Robert Shuller Theology
 
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Can anyone with some information give me some input?

The best thing to do is watch his show for a couple of weeks and see what you think.

My personal view is that he presents aspects of Christianity which are sometimes neglected but I wouldn't consider his theology to be a well balanced one. If you attend a church on a regular basis then watching his show probably isn't going to hurt you but I wouldn't recommend it as your only source of learning about the faith.

I'd also question if he still holds to Reformed Theology as he tends to focus on possibility thinking.

Go to the Hour of Power website and watch some of his shows and listen to some of his sermons and see what you think.

Hour of Power

I will admit that when life gets the better of you his sermons can help.
 
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