Lion ~ Judah or Dan? ~ Messiah or Anti-Messiah?

SonWorshipper

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Jacob's Blessing on Judah:

Genesis 49: 8 Judah, thee shall thy brethren praise; thy hand shall be on the neck of thine enemies; thy father's sons shall bow down before thee. 9 Judah is a lion's whelp; from the prey, my son, thou art gone up. He stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as a lioness; who shall rouse him up? 10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, as long as men come to Shiloh; and unto him shall the obedience of the peoples be. 11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ***'s colt unto the choice vine; he washeth his garments in wine, and his vesture in the blood of grapes; 12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.



The blessing given to Dan is similar in wording. Many believe that the Anti-Christ will come from this tribe.

Dispite what many think, "Anti Christ" actually translates from the Greek to "Instead of Christ" - Anti means Instead of, not opposite.

Dan is called a Lion's welp; Dan means God is my judge , or God shall judge me.

Jacob's blessing on him includes:

"Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel, Dan shall be a serpent that bites the horses heels. "

The last time we heard of something like this was in the Garden:

Genesis 3

14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Another little tidbit:

Right after the "blessing" on Dan and before the one given to Gad, Jacob makes a statement:

GENESIS 49:18

I have waited for thy salvation , O LORD.

I dont' know about you but I find that strange, inserted there, strange but very revealing I believe. Here is Jacob awaiting the bringing of Messiah, but this is not said after the blessing on Judah, but Dan.

Judah means "Praise the Lord"

Dan means : "The Lord has Judged Me"

Leah had her fourth son and at that time she said "Now I will praise the Lord" . Then it says that she stopped being fertile for a time until she saw that her sister was giving children to Jacob. She was happy with what she had ( at that point) and what the Lord had given her was sufficient.

Notice that now Rachel gets angry because she has no children and her sister has four sons. She then rails at Jacob and gives him Bilhah to get children from. Not happy to wait upon the Lord for him to give her children in due time, or happy that her husband has sons by her sister. And who is the product of this forced union?

Dan.

She finds that Bilhah is pregnant and delivers Jacob a son and Rachel says that she has been judged by God.

Very telling I think this all is.

Any thoughts?
 

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I have split this from another thread regarding the tribe of Judah. To keep everything on track this thread can be used to contrast the two tribes. Judah , who the true Messiah came through and Dan, who also is referred to as a Lion and many believe the Anti- Messiah will come through.

Has anyone else done any studys on this?

Let's talk!:D
 
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Very interesting although I understand anti to mean against or facing - it can mean instead of but that is not the more common meaning. It means "opposite" in the sense of spacial relations - like a helpmeet his someone "anti" you, i.e. facing you, or you go over to the land opposite (anti) you.
I do agree with you though that it doesn't mean opposite like we use it in English (black vs. white).
 
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Here is a little work I did awhile ago on the word "anti"

Yeshua came instead of the Father?
In the greek there is a word "anti", it is used in combination with other words to make one word. Such as the english suffix of "pre" meaning before, so when added to any word it means before_(add word here) ____.

Now when going through Strongs, I looked for other words using this prefix. And found something "verty interesting" as Arte Johnson used to say on Laugh-In (for those over 35 ;)).

There is one entry of the word "ANTIPAS". Now I have always thought of this as a person. But looking at the Greek, it seems there is something else here.

The word "Anti" translates to "instead of" .

Now "Pas" in Greek means ( Strongs 3962) Father, male parent or ancestor .

Now when you see the meaning of that and read this passage, what do you see?

This is in an address to the church in Smyrna

quote:
Revelation 2
13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.


13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas (instead of Father) was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

We know that the beginning of the "letters to the churches" tells us that it is Yeshua giving this information to John right? Telling him to write down what he tells him.

Now each church is told who the letter comes from , but each time it is different. We know that this is Yeshua by the opening verses of chapter 1:

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; 20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.


So when Chapter 2:13 says: I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas ( instead of Father) was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth".........We know that the "I" who knows the works, etc..............Is Yeshua himself speaking. BUT it is very interesting that he speaks, not as the Son of God but as God himself!

"And thou holdest fast my name" - the name of Yeshua
"and has not denied my faith" a BETTER translation is from the CJB " You did not deny trusting me"

"Even in those days wherein Antipas ( instead of Father) was my faithful martyr"

This EXPLODES with great meaning! This is saying that Yeshua speaking is GOD and that these faithful servants he is speaking to, some were actually there in Jerusalem when Yeshua was crucified! And not only that but he is saying that Antipas=Instead of the Father, Yeshua, was MY faithful martyr. Yeshua was HIS ( Yeshua/God's) faithful martyr!

Doesn't that just blow you away!!!!! It does me!

Praise Him!:bow: Yeshua!
 
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Hiya Noa.

I think that you made a disappearing act about the time I showed up. I had been reading these boards for awhile before I began posting, and had read many of your posts during that time. Then I decided to start sharing a few of my thoughts, and *bam* you dissapeared.

lol... welcome back,
Yafet.
p.s. I see in your profile you study Kabbalah. Would you like to discuss anything you've studied concerning the nature of HaShem?
 
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