HI 4jesus,
4Jesus said:
I've pointed this out to you before. Rev.20:5 are those that are unbelievers. The first resurrection is a resurrection to life (John 5:28, 29), the second resurrection is a resurrection to death. This happens after satan is bound for a thousand years (Rev.20.2). Which brings up the point that, if this has happened and is not in the future, it is hard to believe that satan is bound and nations (i.e.people) are not being deceived anymore (20:3).
Dan 12
2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
When does this happen?
Daniel 12
There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people-everyone whose name is found written in the book-will be delivered.
At the time of the great tribulation. Before , after, during...doesn't say.
This is talking about those who sleep in the dirt and Daniel is going to be one of them.
13 "As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance."
As for you(Daniel) carry on til the end.(Daniel's death) Daniel will rest(sleep in the dirt)and the at the end of the days (sometime around the great tribulation) Daniel will be raised to eternal life.
A side note here is that this is one more time the bible tells us the great tribulation is at the end of the days.
You mentioned John 5:28,29 and you said it was the resurrection to life.
28"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29and come out--those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.
What it says is ALL who are in their graves will hear His voice. Where does it say only the good will come out? It says they will ALL come out and will be raised to eternal life or be condemned.
This agrees with this in Matthew 12:
37For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
This is what happens to everybody. The judgement. I don't see a time difference for the good and evil. The judgement comes after you die Hebrews 9:27 and at that judgement you are aquitted or condemned.
Matthew 12:
36But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.
So further on John 5:28,29 we see that ALL those that hear will 'come out.' That's all it says about it, there is no clear meaning given for 'come out', we have to determine that meaning from other verses.
John 5
25I tell you the truth, a time is coming and HAS NOW COME when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live.
So at the time Jesus made these statements we know the dead were HEARING the voice. It doesn't say they had 'come out', only that they hear.
What comments do you have to this point?
Justme