Che guevara
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Why do you like him? I hope it is not because kids you perceive as cool wear shirts with his face on it.jkoziel said:
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Washington and Jefferson did not help establish an oppressive regime. Washington and Jefferson never tried to go to other countries to export this regime. Washington and Jefferson were not caught, and executed for doing the same.MatthewG215 said:
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Nah!jkoziel said:
Che has been promoted by some Communists as some sort of Commie Saint.
Then Americans killing him made him more famous in death than he ever was in life.
He wasnt even particularly sucessful as Castro gave him the task of re-building the Cuban Economy and he screwed the Economy up badly.
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Yay!Swart said:
Someone else has heard that song! Have you seen the flash movie?
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Jeremiah the Bullfrog said:Yay!
Some time ago. I had forgotten about it until you mentioned it. Quite an inspiring tune isn't it!
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It is indeed. That is the only place I have heard of Ghe guevara until this thread came up.Swart said:
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ACougar said:
Actually, apart from the revolution in Cuba, which he became disillusioned with, he tried to foist the idea of revolution on a people that didn't want it. He never managed to inspire more than a handful of people, and died a rather ignominious death.
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Just becasue he was a Socialist does not make him bad.
In my view, he attempted to right social injustices, but often went about it the wrong way.
Still, I find him more inspiring than say, most (all) US presidents of the past 20 years. Not on my list of heros though.
In my view, he attempted to right social injustices, but often went about it the wrong way.
Still, I find him more inspiring than say, most (all) US presidents of the past 20 years. Not on my list of heros though.
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How many innocent people lost their lives that didn't support his beloved Cuban Revolution. How many people are stuck in Cuban jails because they yearn to be free?
What makes him bad is his support for Castro and the support of government system that has failed. It's failure is supported by the demise of the old Soviet Union.
I find the inspiration of one Capitalist greater then the all the socialist leaders combine.
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Typical blindness. If it's Socialist it must be bad.wildthing said:
Did you miss the bit where I said it was gone about the wrong way? The cause was nobel, the actions weren't.
I'd much prefer a society where the poor have as much chance as the rich to survive, but then I'm one of those bleeding heart lefties I guess
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wildthing said:
I would hazard a guess that you know very little about Cuba, the Cuban revolution or the Bautista regime that preceeded it.
If you want to compare Cuba with another country, it is best to do so with another country in similar circumstances. Comparing Cuba with Honduras, Mexico, El Salvador or Guatamela and I can tell you where I would much rather live.
Oh, and the Cuban Gaol's were all emptied some years ago and given asylum in the US. It caused a major upsurge in crime in Miami. The US government finally admitted that most of the so-called political prisoners were common criminals. Floridans refer to it as the day that Castro "flushed his toilet".
Castro admired the US for some time and thought the US would support his revolution. When the US backed Bautista he was reluctantly forced into the arms of the Soviets, whom he never trusted.
You should read something of Cuban history, it is quite interesting. I suggest http://library.thinkquest.org/18355/the_cuban_revolution_-_1959.html?tqskip1=1 as a starting point.
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Let you answer that question about Socialist government. I would rather live in a capitalist system where i have the freedom to determine how I give hand outs if any to the "poor". I have no value to country whose ideas that we must support the poor by giving hand outs to them this includes the policies of the United States. These policies are short sighted they just continue the idea that the government is there to support you and provide for you. No give me freedom and the responablity to provide for myself, no thank you to the government programs.
In regruads to that Internet site it was less then forthright. In a free system we would not have likes of Castro and company forevery determining the policies of a country. In truth he is no better then Batista. Do you not think that the people of Cuba are intelligent enough to be able to shape their the way they want it. Is it not time for Castro and company to step down and let the real revolution happen??! Or are they afraid that they might find that the people who at first supported them have a change of mind and want to leave a failed system.
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