Pentecost, then what?

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Hello. I hope I can jump right in and be welcome in this fellowship. I see many hearts which are awake and pursuing what God has for them. This is refreshing on a discussion board. I am accustomed to boards where venom is spewed and people are judged according to men's doctrines. But enough about that.

I just want to raise a question regarding things spiritual. I assume we all recognize the feast of Passover and what it means, as well as the feast of Pentecost. But has anyone given thought to the next feast, what it means, what it is about?
 

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New Creature said:
Hello. I hope I can jump right in and be welcome in this fellowship. I see many hearts which are awake and pursuing what God has for them. This is refreshing on a discussion board. I am accustomed to boards where venom is spewed and people are judged according to men's doctrines. But enough about that.

I just want to raise a question regarding things spiritual. I assume we all recognize the feast of Passover and what it means, as well as the feast of Pentecost. But has anyone given thought to the next feast, what it means, what it is about?

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Welcome New Creature,

I know the names of the feasts but do not necessarily know which one is when. . . would you tell us what the feast your referring to is?
 
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Quaffer said:
I know the names of the feasts but do not necessarily know which one is when. . . would you tell us what the feast your referring to is?

Thank you Quaffer.

Here is one scripture for you:

Deu 16:16 Three times in a year shall all your males appear before Jehovah your God in the place which He shall choose: In the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and in the Feast of Weeks and in the Feast of Tabernacles.

Now these are the feasts: Passover (our passage from death to life), Pentecost (when the Spirit writes his word on our hearts), and Tabernacles or Booths (dwelling with God).

Here is another passage:
Leviticus 23:40-44 LITV
(40) And you shall take to yourselves on the first day the fruit of majestic trees, palm branches, and boughs of oak trees, and willows of the valley, and shall rejoice before Jehovah your God seven days.
(41) And you shall keep a feast to Jehovah, seven days in a year, a never ending statute throughout your generations; in the seventh month you shall keep it.
(42) You shall live in booths seven days; all who are native in Israel shall live in booths,
(43) so that your generations shall know that I caused the sons of Israel to live in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt; I am Jehovah your God.
(44) And Moses proclaimed the appointed feasts of Jehovah to the sons of Israel.
 
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Christ is the Bread of Life, who ever eats of Him shall hunger no more.
All the feasts are fulfilled in Christ. We do not need to be hungry anymore! Thank God!

Those feast were for the Jews to remember what God had done for them in the past and to look forward to the Messiah in the future.

Now that Jesus came and rose, we need only look to him to remember what He has done!

God Bless!!
EJO
 
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EJO said:
Christ is the Bread of Life, who ever eats of Him shall hunger no more.
All the feasts are fulfilled in Christ. We do not need to be hungry anymore! Thank God!

Those feast were for the Jews to remember what God had done for them in the past and to look forward to the Messiah in the future.

Now that Jesus came and rose, we need only look to him to remember what He has done!

God Bless!!
EJO

Thanks EJO.

I am just curious. Do you agree with the concept that some believers have been baptised or filled with the Holy Spirit, and some have not?
 
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NC, my belief is- once you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, then you are indwelt with the Holy Spirit. I do not think the concept or term of 'baptised in the Spirit' is correct. Baptism is an outward showing of the internal choice you have made already. It is a model of Christ dieing and being raised.
Now, when I decide to live in my flesh, which is a daily struggle,, the Holy Spirit does not 'leave' per-se
but God can't dwell in the same place as sin. But ask for forgive ness, and some help from the Holy Spirit and He will give you strength to go and do. Christ sent His helper. The Holy Spirit is our helper, He empowers us to do amazing things; Luke24:49. We also have victory over our flesh with the Holy Spirit;Rom 8:24 and Gal 4:6.

Check out this site: http://www.carm.org/doctrine/holyspirit.htm

God Bless EJO
 
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New Creature said:
Thank you Quaffer.

Here is one scripture for you:

Deu 16:16 Three times in a year shall all your males appear before Jehovah your God in the place which He shall choose: In the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and in the Feast of Weeks and in the Feast of Tabernacles.

Now these are the feasts: Passover (our passage from death to life), Pentecost (when the Spirit writes his word on our hearts), and Tabernacles or Booths (dwelling with God).

Here is another passage:
Leviticus 23:40-44 LITV
(40) And you shall take to yourselves on the first day the fruit of majestic trees, palm branches, and boughs of oak trees, and willows of the valley, and shall rejoice before Jehovah your God seven days.
(41) And you shall keep a feast to Jehovah, seven days in a year, a never ending statute throughout your generations; in the seventh month you shall keep it.
(42) You shall live in booths seven days; all who are native in Israel shall live in booths,
(43) so that your generations shall know that I caused the sons of Israel to live in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt; I am Jehovah your God.
(44) And Moses proclaimed the appointed feasts of Jehovah to the sons of Israel.
I think that you are on to something here, although I don't know what. I can see that different dispensations of the Spirit agree with different feast, but without further study I can't answer your question. Let me see if this helps though


The dispensation that was before, was the rebirth of pentecost, the giving of the Spirit, which is equivalent to the baptism of the Holy Ghost, but as it applies to the church.

We are leaving the dispensation of the anointing, which is the equivialent of the baptism of fire but as it applies to the church.

The next dispensation is that of the glory, which is the baptism of sufferings, but as it applies to the church.

Here is the concept, and I know that you probably have never heard this before, it should be kind of new to alot of people here. Every temple that God moves upon goes through five stages as seen in the dedication of Solomon's temple. I will list all of the different temples listed in scripture first.

1. Isreal's temple (consisting of the many formes that it took, Moses's, to Solomon's)
2. Christ's body (His physical form)
3. The believer's body
4. The Body of Christ (the church)

1. God inhabited the Holy of Holies (equal to our spirit)
Jesus was born
Salvation (baptism into the body of Christ)
The church is born at pentecost

2-3. God moves into the Holy place (equal to our soul)
Jesus is baptised in water
Water baptism for the believer
I think this can be equated with the darkages coming to an end with Martin Luther, still trying to hear God on this one

2-3. God moves past the veil (equal to our control, the veil that seperates us from God)
Jesus recieves the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove
The baptism of the Holy Spirit
Azuza Street revival, (I know that not everything that happened there was of God, but still God's spirit was poured out)

4. God moves to the inner court, pushing out the priest (equal to our flesh)
Jesus is taken into the wilderness, much of His ministery
The baptism of fire
The anointing is given to the church, Praise and worship comeback into the church service.

5. God moves te the outer court, into the streets (equal to our environment)
Jesus is tryed and cricifed
The baptism of sufferings
The glory is given to the church (this has not happened yet)

There are many people who will not see this, but I think thay your study of the feast will fit with this. Anyone feel free to comment. I welcome your comments as this is still something that I am seeking God on. Blessings.
 
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EJO,

I woouldn't disagree totally with what you said, but i may see it a bit differently. While I think all believers have the Spirit, and many ackowledge this, not all are aware of his presence. I liken it to being in a house where electricity flows, but until you flip the lights on, you really can't appreciate it.
 
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SNup,

I see some of the relationships you are making, but I was having trouble following. Something this complex is hard to communicate in written form.

There is one thing I wanted to mention. You said,

"God moves past the veil (equal to our control, the veil that seperates us from God)"

This may be related to my original point. Intellectually we acknowledge that Christ rent the veil. But why, in our conscience, do we still see a veil seperating us from God?
 
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New Creature said:
EJO,

I woouldn't disagree totally with what you said, but i may see it a bit differently. While I think all believers have the Spirit, and many ackowledge this, not all are aware of his presence. I liken it to being in a house where electricity flows, but until you flip the lights on, you really can't appreciate it.

Just because some believers do not 'feel' Him, or 'experience' Him, it does not negate the fact that He is ever present. Always there. But we/I have to acknowledge Him and ask for His help, because He is not going "barge" in on your life.

I hope we are talking the same thing

Peace, EJO
 
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