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You just wanted him to mess up his monitor again, eh? LOLchalice_thunder said:
--MQTA (what a way to communicate, parenthetically speaking)
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i dont see anyone promoting anything, other than the fact its highly unlikely that 50,000 people will steal a state from the US for their own nation. I mean come on! more people than that go to my university!
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tulc
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I can see I'm going to have to promote a serious case of WATER FIGHT!
(tulc pulls out Ol'Betsy! and commenses to whup!)(first he fires a barrage of water balloons at USincognito!
[move]
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[/move](that's for making me spray stuff all over my screen from laughing!)
(then tulc sprays chalice_thunder with a few giant water balloons)
[updown]
[/updown][updown]OOO[/updown]
[updown]OOOO[/updown]
[updown]OOOOO[/updown]
(just because he...well he....alright I'm just doing it because
"hey annoying is what I do!")
(then he just sprays some random water balloons around to annoy elanor, Bigtoe and mqta!)
[pong]ooooo[/pong]
[pong]ooooooooo[/pong]
[pong]ooooo[/pong]
[pong]oooooooooo[/pong]
tulc(who isn't gay, just really really in touch with his feminine side!
)
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feral
Dostoyevsky was right
I am quite disappointed with your failure to use a logical argument and your use of the slippery slope fallacy. Progressive civil rights does not mean permitting rapists to rape, and I think you know that. As a woman, I am quite insulted to be told that being pro-civil rights is akin to wanting to murder my grandmother, or wanting to be raped. Certainly both of those examples are a far cry from civil rights, and exactly the thing prople who care about civil rights want to protect. I've been labeled a liberal here despite being pro-life, so your comment about mothers killing their children after birth is also offensive and crazy. What a scary world you must live in, if you think people really want these things you've mentioned. I sometimes wonder if people who use these extreme, outlandish arguments are just trying to score points instead of really contribute to any meaningful dialogue.
If it wasn't for the conservatives, freedom of the slaves wouldn't have taken so long. It was conservative churches which preached the virtue of slavery. If it wasn't for conservatives, no one would have stood in the door of the schools blocking integration. Prince Edward County VA, which closed all of its schools to protest integration, had conservative leadership. It was conservatives who burned crosses in the lawns of African Americans, not liberals. It was conservatives who protested the women's movement and condemned women who sought the vote. It is conservatives now who protest the rights of homosexuals to get married, preferring, as they have in the past, to support discrimination. You are the brakes on the train, not the only ones saving us from a world of chaos and anarchy. And I don't mean you personally, but the conservative movement in general. You are not saving us from "killing and devaluing" one another - it's the conservative movement that supports the death penalty and protests against women's rights .
If you want an excuse to hate other people for their politics, then I'm glad to be your scapegoat.Aren't you just a ray of sunshine. You do much to credit the conservative view of liberals, I assure you.
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tulc- you missed me I know you aren't gay, but I had to go along with the joke, because it was, well, funny! 
I KNOW! why dont we steal our own state for a CF country!
I know you aren't gay, but I had to go along with the joke, because it was, well, funny! I KNOW! why dont we steal our own state for a CF country!
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Dostoyevsky was right
Disagreeing with a group of people (conservatives in this case) doesn't mean I hate them. I simply do see conservatives as dragging their feet and opposing civil rights...and I don't mean all, it's just a generalization. My opinion on this plan of seceeding is that if they don't like it they can go. I would rather have people leave then to stay and continue protesting and complaining about civil rights advancement. Sorry if that came out sounding snarly last time, I was laughing when I wrote it.
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tulc said:I can see I'm going to have to promote a serious case of WATER FIGHT!
(tulc pulls out Ol'Betsy! and commenses to whup!)(first he fires a barrage of water balloons at USincognito!
[move]
(that's for making me spray stuff all over my screen from laughing!)
(then tulc sprays chalice_thunder with a few giant water balloons)
[updown]
[updown]OOO[/updown]
[updown]OOOO[/updown]
[updown]OOOOO[/updown]
(just because he...well he....alright I'm just doing it because
"hey annoying is what I do!")
(then he just sprays some random water balloons around to annoy elanor, Bigtoe and mqta!)
[pong]ooooo[/pong]
[pong]ooooooooo[/pong]
[pong]ooooo[/pong]
[pong]oooooooooo[/pong]
tulc(who isn't gay, just really really in touch with his feminine side!
Yeah, but you throw like a girl!
neener neener
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You've been too educated in the evils of conservatism, and see very little evil in liberal thought.feral said:
I'll admit something to you, because I see you are an intelligent person. Conservative thought does cause some braking to happen. Braking is not neccesarily bad; it has very good qualities too. I just believe that liberal greasing has worse side-effects than does conservative braking, and that's why I'm a conservative thinker and voter.
Whether or not conservatives and Christians put the brakes on freedom of slaves, I don't know. I'll bet there were many Christians and conservatives who believed slavery was fine. But I'll also bet there were many who did not, and were fighting for freeing of slaves. It would take a deeper study of history for me to satisfy that question for myself. There's an idea for summer study.
Liberal "greasing" can be good and bad--I believe, mostly bad, because of my individual life experiences, religious beliefs, and study of history.
Liberal thought causes very little friction, and instead pushes things onward--not that these "things" are good. Because of liberal thinking, millions of babies have been painfully murdered in the womb. These babies are devalued human life, in liberal thought, and do not deserve protection under law, or the right to live. Right-to-die activists push for the murder of the elderly, severly-handicapped, and other such people they devalue and claim are " not valuable" to society. Such thinking, if not restrained by conservative brakes, would lead to labeling anyone "not valuable" to society, thus needing to be killed off.
Also, conservatives do not always "brake", and liberals do not always "grease." It depends on the issue.
That's all for now--gotta leave.
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by right-to-die i assume you mean pro-choice and would ask that in the future you please refrain from that wording as its very offensive and portrays a completely illogical and incorrect view of what pro-choice is. thanks!
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aeroz19 said:
Your Jedi mind tricks won't work on us.
Hyperbole only is effective on your fellow ditto heads. Try making an intellectual point without pumping it so full of emotion that it's ready to explode like an overgorged tick. The Right to Die movement is nothing like the Eugenicists of the 1920s and 1930s.
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By saying "right-to-die," I was referring to those who practice assisted suicide.BigToe said:
However, the definition does cover those who practice assisted genocide.
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I am getting hate vibes from you.USincognito said:
By the way, adding emotion to logic does nothing to delute the logic. You atheists are so big on logic. I knew an atheist for about a year in College; all he knew was logic. He had no personality and no sense of humor--just logic. He was pretty dull to talk to. My math instructor is also an atheist, and he also lacks personality.
I'm not saying all atheists lack personality. Maybe it was coincidence. You certainly seem to have a personality and a sense of humor. From the tone and content of your posts, I gather that you also have a hatred for Christians--maybe for people of other faiths too.
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tulc said:You better stop or I'm going to hold my breath till I pass out!!
tulc(ohhh look at all the pretty colors!)
Seriously, tulc - you are such a drama queen!
I am hereby making you and Honorary Queer. From now on you shall be known as HQ tulc.
...your highness!
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aeroz19 said:
Nope. Actually, it's more of a time zone thing. You're out west and up late, I work nights, so we're more likely to cross paths. Same with Criminals.. er Australians.
I also tend to butt heads with the militants of any group. I go after Young Earth Creationists, political reactionaries and radicals, angry God-Hating atheists and self-absorbed neo-Pags. I don't go after who someone is as much as how they say what they do.
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Personality is hard to convey over the internet, but I'm quite a character. You see my rep points? Those ain't for substance, they're mostly for people finding stuff funny... like my Richard Simmons avatar for example.
I'm not all that big on logic, but I am big on not using fallacious logic in debate. Saying that the Right to Die movement is advocating mass murder is logically fallacious for 2 reasons:
1. Appeal to emotion (instead of reasoned thought)
2. Equvocation (saying that assisted or facillitated suicide is equivalent to Eugenics)
Loaded words might make for great talk radio and "stirring up the faithful," but it fails miserably as meaningful discourse.
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Where's that stupid banana smilie...! aeroz19 said:
I have over 2000 posts to this forum. And a good 500 or so have something of substance in them. I'd say that drawing any conclusions on how I feel about Christians or religious people in general is rather premature on your part after 5 or 10 posts.
Here's something I had posted in OBOB that will probably dispell rumors of my "hating" Christians. Well, that and the fact that I've been accused in the past by atheists and neo-Pags of being a closet Christian.
Edited to add - and tulc is going to be a great Honorary Queer. I mean look at his overuse of smilies and gayish HTML. He's more of a flamer than John Hughes.
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