Talmid, I noticed before and recently sometimes (and please correct me if I am wrong) but you state that Messianics stem from Nazarenes or are the same as Nazarenes some how.. something along those lines
sort of like this:
As if you believe Nazarenes and Messianic Jews are the same.
I would like to know why you believe this (if you do indeed believe it) ?
Could you please give some sources for this belief ?
Do you believe that Messianic believers are Christians ?
When you say Nazarene's are you using this definition:
Nazarene, term used of the early Christians. Jesus was sometimes referred to as a Nazarene, alluding to his home town, Nazareth. This usage occurs several times in the New Testament. Nazarene is also used of Christians in the Qur'an. (source: http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0835049.html )
or are you saying Messianics are Nazarites as in Numbers 6:2-21 ? One's that did this: The vow of a Nazarite involved these three things, (1) abstinence from wine and strong drink, (2) refraining from cutting the hair off the head during the whole period of the continuance of the (3) the avoidance of contact with the dead. (source: http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/nazarite.html )
Note: I don't mind anyone jumping in and adding their opinion. I was just asking Talmid specifically because I have seen him refer to "Nazarenes/Messianic Jews".
sort of like this:
I know of no instance where Nazarene/Messianic Jews every broke away from that.
As if you believe Nazarenes and Messianic Jews are the same.
I would like to know why you believe this (if you do indeed believe it) ?
Could you please give some sources for this belief ?
Do you believe that Messianic believers are Christians ?
When you say Nazarene's are you using this definition:
Nazarene, term used of the early Christians. Jesus was sometimes referred to as a Nazarene, alluding to his home town, Nazareth. This usage occurs several times in the New Testament. Nazarene is also used of Christians in the Qur'an. (source: http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0835049.html )
or are you saying Messianics are Nazarites as in Numbers 6:2-21 ? One's that did this: The vow of a Nazarite involved these three things, (1) abstinence from wine and strong drink, (2) refraining from cutting the hair off the head during the whole period of the continuance of the (3) the avoidance of contact with the dead. (source: http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/nazarite.html )
Note: I don't mind anyone jumping in and adding their opinion. I was just asking Talmid specifically because I have seen him refer to "Nazarenes/Messianic Jews".