Unity?

This could very well be true, JacqueB, if one believes that where gods get their true power on this earth is through the faith of their believers.

if you are speaking of faith from humans, not really tscott

there are always angels, and demons have to bow down aswell.
so whats the purpose for the human??

Sojeru,

I'm not sure I follow you.

If gods get their power from angels and demons as well as from humans, you would be correct, but that wasn't what I was referring to. I was referring to someone who believes that gods get their power only through the faith of their believers.

What I was referring to was in referrence to the theory that JacqueB was promoting on the thread header.

understood Tscott,

but i have no bussiness here
I cant make someone believe that there must be one way- confusion will do that, unless that person is comfortable in confusion (i.e. mystery bavilon)

and all have drunken of her, and in some way or another is stuck in confusion.
However, there are those that are not.
There are only ONE PEOPLE, there is ONE GD, ONE SPIRIT, ONE TRUTH, ONE DOCTRINE, ONE WAY (Torah), ONE WORD(Uni-Verse), ONE DIRECTION(Torah), ONE DOOR(Messiah), ONE IGLESIA(assembly, church, congregation, community) and this Community is The ONE YIsrael, and it was his ONE WAY and ONE REVELATION from the beginning- to avraham to Moshe, to David, to Messiah till today.
THE ONE AND ONLY WAY is the Way the truth and Life through the ONE FAITH, and ONE LOVE, and ONE TRUTH

shalom

Interesting... Is there a name for this philosophy?

I once heard it stated that God is whatever brought the universe into being; so actually, by this definition, even atheists are not atheists, for if they refused to believe in a God by this definition then they'd be denying their own existance. I forget who said it. Maybe someone here can remind me.

Um....

God can't be relative though. Just like an object on earth does not change based on what people BELIEVE it is. I can believe my chair is a cookie all I want, but it's still a chair.

Things are not relative, they are objective. They exist - they don't change based on waht WE think they are.

11th April 2003 at 10:21 PM paulewog said this in Post #7

Um....

God can't be relative though. Just like an object on earth does not change based on what people BELIEVE it is. I can believe my chair is a cookie all I want, but it's still a chair.

Things are not relative, they are objective. They exist - they don't change based on waht WE think they are.

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Yes, your chair will actually be a chair to everyone else, but if you are utterly convinced that it is a cookie, then to your mind it will be a cookie and if you don't ever try to eat it you will die believing that it was a cookie.  If you are content knowing that there is a big, overstuffed cookie sitting in the middle of your living room, then you will die content in that.


 

Interesting concept JacqueB, that everybody is right and will achieve their own desirable end. Problem with that of course is that everybody believes everybody else is wrong. So we have a paradox here. If everybody is right that everybody is wrong then everybody is wrong. That puts my head in a swim. I guess I’ll leave it to God to sort out and try to work out my own salvation as the Bible says.

Don't jump so readily to conclusions, Tawhano. Not everyone thinks that everyone else is wrong. Need proof?

*raises hand*

Ok, so at least one person in the world believes that there is no One, True Path(tm). =)

7th April 2003 at 07:14 AM JacqueB said this in Post #1

Please do not shoot me down for this... this thread is more for very open minded Christians and Non Christians. Not for people who are condemning.

I've always had a thought that maybe we all believe in the same God, just different forms of him. Ways that fit our life and our beliefs and upbringing the best.

Although our religious choices differ and we are not always right in that.

My Mother, who is a very strict Christian, often told me that whatever your belief is in the afterlife is where you will go. If you are a Christian you will be judged and sent respectively, if you believe in reincarnation, then that's what you will be... and I've always found that worth believing!

A way to not argue about who is right and wrong...

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So, correct me if I am wrong, what you are saying is that we choose whats right and wrong?


 

It's commonly called "relativism" I think

yes it is relativism,
however, not a good belief

Its a damning belief indeed. The fallacy in this is that God's Word, not us, defines what is right.

When it comes down to it, we must follow what the Bible says, condemn what it condemns and stay silent where it is silent.

What do you mean then, cause I don't want a messed up view of you.

Yes, we have a choice - but only one religion can be right. Especially if you believe the Bible. There is absolutely no way the Bible can agree with any other "religion" (Christianity isn't a religion, by the way.... religion is a system of somethings that one DOES to get right with God, that's not what true Christianity is )

lol, to say TRUE christianity is NOT a religion because it is something that someone DOES to get right with GD is a laugh.

Christianity is a religion, even James reffers to RELIGION that is of GD.
Jam 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.

but he does bring up one who SEEMS to be religious, inother words , one who SEEMs to be holy and is not:
Jam 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion [is] vain.

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"christians" hear to much and do not search the scriptures themselves.
There are many things that "christians" DO NOT understand about Messiah, what he came to do and what he is doing now because they go with what they hear and let that guide what they read, instead of what they read guide what they listen to.

There is ONE religion of GD, not many , and in this ONE religion, there are NOT many roads, there is ONE
baptist, pentacostle, all protestant groups, catholics, eastern churches, all of it- are the many roads in pseudo-christianity, in true christianity there is ONLY ONE WAY. and those in pseudo christianity NEED to find it.

There is a WORK to be done to make ourselves right before GD.
LOVE IS AN ACTION, not confined to feeling.
Repentance is AN ACTION comprised of 2 feelings and this is the first action in making ourselves right with GD
THE NEXT action is IMMERSION(baptism) for salvation. without these a person is not saved.

You may say that i am wrong, however i can assure you that i am not. Your minds are Not OPEN to understanding as of yet.
But you can hear what I have to say and it DOES not GO AGAINST THE WORD IN ANY WAY- however, it may go against your understanding of it.

"Yes, we have a choice - but only one religion can be right. Especially if you believe the Bible. There is absolutely no way the Bible can agree with any other "religion" (Christianity isn't a religion, by the way.... religion is a system of somethings that one DOES to get right with God, that's not what true Christianity is)"

What a load.
1) Define "right".
2) The possibility exists than no religion is "right".
3) religion: n. the service and worship of God or the supernatural
4) *ahem*: n. formal religious veneration; a system of religious beliefs and ritual

Not only is christianity, by definition, a religion, it is, by definition, another word which I cannot say in this forum because ignorant fools add false connotation to it.