Pat Tillman ~ atheist in foxhole

Wow, great article. Thanks.

Agreed...great read.

<<<What? This didn't happen for God, as well as country? A professional athlete turned soldier, and we're supposed to believe that he'd have no use for piety? Robbed of a cliche, where does that leave us? Challenge yourself. >>>

Thanks for posting, I really liked the article.

The article didn't say he was an atheist (maybe I missed that part). It seemed like he was a spiritual seeker. And just because his brother in law says something doesn't make it true.

It sounds like he was a kind, compassionate, caring human being.

Sounds to me that he was a free thinker who chose to fight for his convictions and country and paid the ultimate price for his choice. I'm sorry...Pat isn't dead as long as he remains remembered for his sacrifice.

That was a very interesting article, most of the clips on CNN from his memorial in San Jose just had a few people saying general nice things about him.

A beautiful article, and a great read. He might be dead, but I'm sure he's in heaven. We should not forget his sacrifice, and labor to make sure that it was not in vain.

...a facinating insite into the man rather than the myth. Certainly a man who challenged himself to think outside the box.

...a facinating insight into the man rather than the myth. Certainly a man who challenged himself to think outside the box...and set an example for self-sacrifice.

JOHN 15:13
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
KJV


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jackkemp/jk20040426.shtml

MidKnight said:

Well, I'll take the word of Rich Tillman...he the younger brother of Pat, regarding the more accurate perspective.

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If Pat Tillman did not believe in Christ, his brother was correct. He is dead.

the articles don't contradict each other. fortunately we get to read both. i have no reason to believe his little brother is lying. nor does it minimize his sacrifice. in some ways, it intensifies it, because without God he had no hope of his sacrifice being rewarded.
townhall was an interesting site to peruse. at least it doesn't pretend to be balanced. if this is ones source for all their insights, they will necessarliy be myopic, just as a liberal spending all their time on a liberal columnist site is receiving only part of the story. we all get indoctrinated to something. choose wisely.

yours in Christ

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UnhandledException said:

If Pat Tillman did not believe in Christ, his brother was correct. He is dead.

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I'm so glad I reject Christianity...

Anyway...

Per your theology, Pat Tillman is being punished in Hell isn't he?

I know this isn't apologetics...but are you okay with that? Not sure how people can live with that outlook on life...especially when applied to a person like Pat Tillman. Words can't describe how I feel. Sick I guess is probably a good word.

Pat Tillman and the way he lived will be a comfort for those close to him.

We should all be so lucky.

OB said:

I'm so glad I reject Christianity...


Per your theology, Pat Tillman is being punished in Hell isn't he?

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It's not the poster's theology, it's Christian theology. And sadly, yes, Pat is not with the Lord (based on his not being a Christian, "if" that was the case).

Michael0701 said:

It's not the poster's theology, it's Christian theology. And sadly, yes, Pat is not with the Lord (based on his not being a Christian, "if" that was the case).

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I started a thread here: http://www.christianforums.com/t671485