Today at 04:04 AM parousia70 said this in Post #160
4th April 2003 at 04:36 AM edpobre said this in Postttp://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=762426#post762426">#158
Your INTERPRETATION of Rev. 22:15 is WRONG.
If we are NOW in the NEW heavens and a NEW earth, why is it that RIGHTEOUSNESS does NOT dwell in it?
Ed
Ed, as Armothe so clearly pointed out, Righteousness does indeed dwell here, now.
OK,Forget about Rev 22:15 for a sec, and explain to me why, when Isaiah is so plainly clear that upon and within the "new Heavens and earth" Sinners dwell, people die, and people procreate,(Isaiah 65:17-25) you choose to teach otherwise?
What truth do you know that Isaiah was so badly mistaken about
P70,
Let me ask you. Is the world that we live in TODAY any better than the world BEFORE the FLOOD or the world BEFORE the DESTRUCTION of Sodom and Gomorrah or BEFORE the DESTRUCTION of Jerusalem in 70 AD?
Is the world that we live in AFTER 70 AD any better or DIFFERENT from the world that existed when apostle Peter wrote: "Nevertheless WE (Christians of apostle Peter's day), according to his promise, LOOK for NEW heavens and a new earth in which RIGHTEOUSNESS dwells" (2 Peter 3:13)?
Is the righteousness that God found in Noah, Lot, the apostles, and a FEW of God's people TODAY, the kind of RIGHTEOUSNESS that apostle Peter talks about?
I don't know HOW to explain what Isaiah 65:17-25 means, considering that a lot of verses have been MISTRANSLATED to firtpre-conceived doctrines. But I follow apostle Paul's method of studying the word of God - by COMPARING spiritual things with spiritual (1 Cor. 2:13).
1 Thes. 4:16-17 explains that when Jesus Christ comes again, ONLY those who are "IN" Christ (dead or alive) TOGTHER, will be caught up in the clouds to MEET Jesus in the air, and thus will ALWAYS be with the Lord.
On that day, those who are NOT "in" Christ (UNGODLY men) will be DESTROYED together with the earth and all the works that are in it (2 Peter 3,7).
Taking these events TOGETHER, the Bible teaches that ONLY those "IN" Christ (righteous and godly) will be ALIVE for the duration of 1000 years.
Rev. 20:5 teaches that the rest of the DEAD will NOT live again UNTIL the 1000 years is finished.
Hence, if Jesus CAME in 70 AD, there should NOT be ANY "ungodly" human being roaming these "new" heavens and "new" earth.
That's why apostle Peter said, "new heavens and new earth where RIGHTEOUSNESS dwells."
These verses just DON'T support the belief that Ssnners will still be around AFTER the coming of Christ.
Ed
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