• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

California has already lost 38% of its billionaire wealth.

durangodawood

re Member
Aug 28, 2007
28,997
20,545
Colorado
✟579,361.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
Single
?
Then where's my check for clearing roads and fighting brush fires and carrying stretchers and doing post-storm clean-ups?
It doesnt mean every thing you do is govt compensated. Its just that rural areas on average are subsidized by other areas.

(Disclosure: I live on a 5ac rural lot 15 mi from the nearest town and 3 hours from the nearest freeway.)
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

DaisyDay

I Did Nothing Wrong!! ~~Team Deep State
Jan 7, 2003
44,166
21,389
Finger Lakes
✟373,970.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Unitarian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
?
Then where's my check for clearing roads and fighting brush fires and carrying stretchers and doing post-storm clean-ups?
You get that in municipal taxes not levied and collected.
 
  • Like
Reactions: iluvatar5150
Upvote 0

Vambram

Born-again Christian; Constitutional conservative
Site Supporter
Dec 3, 2006
9,723
6,635
61
Saint James, Missouri
✟547,944.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican

People talk about the California disaster, but I don’t think we fully appreciate the severity and the manifestations of it. And the best barometer to discover that is how many people are leaving. It’s estimated that somewhere between 400,000 and 500,000 Californians left in ’25, ’26.

Now, the problem with that is they’re not leaving a barren state. They’re not leaving a cold Alaska. They’re leaving the most beautiful state in the country that for years under a bipartisan system of Pat Brown, Ronald Reagan, George Deukmejian, Pete Wilson, and to some extent Arnold Schwarzenegger, it had wonderful governance.

So, why are they leaving? Why have 11 to 12 million people, a quarter of the present population, left California?

Well, the Reason Foundation just did a comprehensive study of all the roads in all the states and ranked them according to congestion, quality of roads, bridges, everything. California was 49th, 49th in the country.

In terms of school scores, it’s down to about 40 to 41 in the nation, even though it’s 13th in the amount of money it spends. It’s got one-third of all the homeless people, maybe up to nearly a half in some studies.

It’s got a third of all the welfare recipients. Twenty-two percent of the people live below the poverty line.

Think of this. It has the highest gasoline taxes in the nation and the highest gas prices, and that’s a combination. It refuses to tap its considerable fifth-in-the-nation oil and natural gas reserves to the full extent that it could.

It shut down the timber industry. It shut down the mining industry.

So, we’re paying because of our green fanaticism on oil blends, and we’ve been driving out oil refineries, and we have these high taxes.
 
Upvote 0

Pommer

Future History Slab Carver
Sep 13, 2008
25,147
15,304
Earth
✟301,876.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Deist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Democrat

People talk about the California disaster, but I don’t think we fully appreciate the severity and the manifestations of it. And the best barometer to discover that is how many people are leaving. It’s estimated that somewhere between 400,000 and 500,000 Californians left in ’25, ’26.

Now, the problem with that is they’re not leaving a barren state. They’re not leaving a cold Alaska. They’re leaving the most beautiful state in the country that for years under a bipartisan system of Pat Brown, Ronald Reagan, George Deukmejian, Pete Wilson, and to some extent Arnold Schwarzenegger, it had wonderful governance.

So, why are they leaving? Why have 11 to 12 million people, a quarter of the present population, left California?

Well, the Reason Foundation just did a comprehensive study of all the roads in all the states and ranked them according to congestion, quality of roads, bridges, everything. California was 49th, 49th in the country.

In terms of school scores, it’s down to about 40 to 41 in the nation, even though it’s 13th in the amount of money it spends. It’s got one-third of all the homeless people, maybe up to nearly a half in some studies.

It’s got a third of all the welfare recipients. Twenty-two percent of the people live below the poverty line.

Think of this. It has the highest gasoline taxes in the nation and the highest gas prices, and that’s a combination. It refuses to tap its considerable fifth-in-the-nation oil and natural gas reserves to the full extent that it could.

It shut down the timber industry. It shut down the mining industry.

So, we’re paying because of our green fanaticism on oil blends, and we’ve been driving out oil refineries, and we have these high taxes.
”Nobody goes there, anymore; it’s always too crowded!” —Yogi Berra
 
Upvote 0

bèlla

❤️
Site Supporter
Jan 16, 2019
23,554
19,504
USA
✟1,168,590.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
In Relationship
I saw a video yesterday about several tech founders purchasing homes on Indian Creek Island in Florida. It's considered a billionaire enclave. A recent visit from an unidentified source viewing a property was rumored to be Elon.

~bella
 
Upvote 0

SabbathBlessings

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Jun 12, 2020
15,798
6,052
USA
✟849,294.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
SDA
Marital Status
Married
I saw a video yesterday about several tech founders purchasing homes on Indian Creek Island in Florida. It's considered a billionaire enclave. A recent visit from an unidentified source viewing a property was rumored to be Elon.

~bella
Elon already left CA for Austin. I do not blame him for looking at Florida. Its a lot closer to CA than Texas.
 
Upvote 0