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Our words should be like nails that we are hammering down

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Then you don't believe the Bible then because you don't believe the verses I just quoted on the first post. The words of the wise being like nails is a biblical concept. Preaching the truth regardless of what people think about it. And preaching hard, causing a little bit of drama if you will. That's biblical. The Bible is called a sword, a sword is a weapon.
Hello BibleBeliever1611, while it's possible to look at a single verse in the Bible and understand what God means by it (out-of-context, IOW), that's hardly true of every verse in the Bible (which is why God commands us to "rightly divide" His word, yes .. 2 Timothy 2:15).

Here's a didactic teaching from the Lord Jesus Himself, one that I believe to be a good example of why we always need to "rightly divide" His word, first and foremost by making sure that our chosen understanding of a single verse or passage in the Bible does not contradict what is clearly taught elsewhere in it.

Luke 14
26 If anyone comes to Me and does not ~hate~ his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

So, what do we do with this? IOW, how do we figure out what the Lord really meant/what He truly intended for us to understand by these words of His?

Thanks!

God bless you!!

--David
p.s. - here's another verse to consider in regard to this, just for good measure :) (and I'll add 2 Timothy 2:15 below too, for the sake of reference).

1 Timothy 2
15 Women will be ~saved through childbearing~, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
2 Timothy 2
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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Well, what is a goad? It is a stick that is used to poke an animal. And if you think about it, what is the Bible often called? What is the foundation of the Christian faith often called? It's called a sword. A sword is a weapon. A weapon is something that is used to hurt people. And sometimes when people are not right with God, preaching of the Bible can hurt quite a bit because it's like a sword piercing you verbally and mentally. But people need to learn to deal with that.

In regards to verbal barrage, I don't think it's a turn-off. It is only a turn-off if you have character issues. It shows bad character if you can't take rebuke. Is it a turn-off if your boss at work is angry with you coming late to work? People receive verbal barrage in other ways and forms in their lives anyways and that's completely normal. So how much MORE normal should it be when it comes to the things of God? The things of God are way more important than anything else. If you are saved, you are literally called to be an ambassador for Christ. Think about it. That's way more important than being an ambassador for the president of the USA or literally any other person on earth, no matter how powerful. So how much more important do you think that is than going to work in time. Just food for thought.
Well I was agreeing with you until you said if you are saved. Jesus said "he that endure until the end the same shall be saved". Anyway I prefer to address the subject at hand.

What I really agreed with here is how we deliver the word. We should be bold. The LORD also commanded us to be wise as serpents and harmless as a dove.

Matthew 10: 16
16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

At the end of the day we are fishers of men trying to catch men for the kingdom of heaven. You don't need a spear gun to hunt a goldfish. Some people need to be rebuke sharply, some people need to be spoken to softly and some may need a mixture of both. Discretion is required when dealing with people of different backgrounds. If someone kicks against the truth because they don't like correction you can simply walk away.

Matthew 7:6
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Also love that Ecclesiastes 11: 12. Powerful scripture. I keep telling people this bible is design to make you change and people always want to hear smooth things. So when you say something like what you said of course someone will disagree. Many people listen to false prophets because they preach what they want to hear and not what is right.

Isaiah 30: 10

10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

Even Jesus deliver the word with boldness and authority. If the truth hurts then you need to change all that simple.

Matthew 7: 28 - 29
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:

29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes
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Then you don't believe the Bible then because you don't believe the verses I just quoted on the first post. The words of the wise being like nails is a biblical concept. Preaching the truth regardless of what people think about it. And preaching hard, causing a little bit of drama if you will. That's biblical. The Bible is called a sword, a sword is a weapon.

I prefer a biblical and Christ-centered methodology when I approach the Scriptures.
 
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No, the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God.
It's for the Spirit to use his own sword - not us. The Sword of the Spirit cuts the bad bits out of people's hearts. It doesn't give them a headache when Christians decide to use it as a hammer.
The word of God can be used like a weapon. The Bible often talks about spiritual warfare. A sword is something you would use on a battle field, fighting a war. The Bible can be used to either offend or defend.
 
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The word of God can be used like a weapon. The Bible often talks about spiritual warfare. A sword is something you would use on a battle field, fighting a war. The Bible can be used to either offend or defend.
But not physically like a weapon - to physically assault people who don't believe.
 
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I heard a preacher say that our words should be like nails that we are hammering down. And I've been thinking about that and I like that idea a lot. What does this accomplish: it destroyes confusion. It brings unity and peace. The Bible said that the righteous is bold like a lion. Being that bold would be like banging the nail so hard that it goes all the way down in one blow. Truth and right doctrine should be preached like nails are banged into the wood. The harder the nail is banged, the harder it is for it to come loose again. Imagine a person who doesn't really know if calvinism is true or false. But then you just bang the truth to him so hard that it just becomes abundantly clear which is the right doctrine (calvinism is false). This is what we need to do with doctrine. Bang it so hard that it never comes loose again.

Ecclesiastes 12:11 says: "The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd."

This is the illustration that should be applied when preaching the Bible, whether it is for a congregation or unsaved people.
I like the old saying the truth cuts like a sword. A clear- and clean-cut exposing the inners. Metaphorically that is.

I agree if Christ is the truth, then his words cannot be denied or have any charge against them. They are so clear that they speak to the spirit with authority that should make the demons run.

I think the world needs such preachers and teachers at the moment. There is too much talking and arguing and fighting to even hear God.

I think when nations reject God and especially the western nations that are supposed to know better having their history and tradition going back to the early church. When the world gets so far away from God then God gives a little reminder. He does not let evil get away with it for too long.

I have heard that young people are turning back to the church. Especially young men. I pray that some if not many become bold and courageous for God. Speaking the truth and living as examples of Christ so that none can be faulted or have any charge against them.

A shining example of how to be for the world as we have had too many bad examples that we need something different.
 
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