Revelation Time Periods

keras · May 21, 2026

The dilemma of Revelations 3 ½ years, 42 months and 1260 days, being unequal:

From ancient records and the Bible, it seems that the earth did have a 360 day year;
During the time of the flood Noah tells us that there was 150 days, started on the seventeenth day of the second month and ended on the seventeenth day of the seventh month (Genesis 7:11,24 and 8:3-4). 150 days divided by 30 = five 30 day months.

The logical solution is that the days will be shortened again.
Isaiah records that the sun reversed itself ten degrees (steps) in the days of Hezekiah before it continued Isaiah 38:8. This can be calculated by working backward: we have now 5.2422 more days than a 360-day year. Now multiply extra days by 24 to get hours = (125.8128) and multiply the hours by 60 to get the minutes= (7,548.768) then divide that by 360 to get the minutes per day= (20.9688).
A sun dial has 360 degrees if you divide that by 12 for daylight it is 30 degrees per hour. So, 10 degrees would be 1/3 = 20.9688 minutes the earth orbit slowed; giving us an extra 5.2422 days per year.

How this future change to the earths orbit around the sun, can be speeded up is by some force, the close bypass of a comet, which I view as most likely how the earth slowed in Hezekiah’s day. or this time speeded up as the Prophets tell us: by the fire sent by the Lord from the sun, Isaiah 30:26a, a multi billion ton mass of superheated Hydrogen plasma, causing the earth to be shaken and moved from her place,- Isaiah 13:13, would do it. That direct hit on the Middle East, will clear and cleanse all of the Holy Land, but most people elsewhere can survive by taking shelter on that one Day. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Zephaniah 2:4-5, Revelation 6:12-17 and Isaiah 26:20-21

Malachi 4:1 & 3, Psalms 50:1-4. 2 Peter 3:7 and many other Prophesies about the result of a Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented magnitude, prove it will be an explosion on the sun. Something we have been warned is a real possibility/probability by secular experts.

Currently the earth is moving at 66,000mph along its orbital track. It takes 365¼ days to complete a year, @ 1,584,000 miles per day. 8,316,000 miles in 5¼ days.
Divide 8,316,000 by 360 = 23,100 miles extra per day, divided by 12 = 962.5 extra miles per hour required.
Therefore, the earths orbital speed would be increased to just under 67,000mph, a change that would hardly be noticeable to earth dwellers.

keras · May 22, 2026

No surprise really that no one can refute this explanation of Revelations timings. Scripture is clear: the earth will move from her place; Isaiah 13:13.
Now we know when; at the Sixth Seal, the next Prophesied event that; no one knows the Day; the Day the Lord comes like a thief.....

My aim and object in posting these truths, is to help people not to be shocked and terrified when this worldwide disaster happens. Many Prophesies go on to tell of the wonderful Blessings the Lord will pour upon Hs faithful peoples after He has cleansed all of the Holy Land.

Keraz said: Divide 8,316,000 by 360 = 23,100 miles extra per day, divided by 12 = 962.5 extra miles per hour required.
This is wrong and I am hoping someone with some mathematical talent can give us the correct answer for the extra mph reqd, for all the hours in 360 days.

keras · May 23, 2026

I can only guess that the whole concept I am promoting, is so far out from the standard teachings accepted by the mainstream Churchs, that it is incomprehensible to most. The reality is this: If people choose to believe false teachings, they will be locked into them. Isaiah 29:9-12

The earths orbital track around the sun, is 584,000,000 miles.
Divided by 365.24 = 160,000 miles per day. Divided by 24 = 6, 660 miles per hour.
Divided by 360 = 162,000 miles per day. Divided by 24 = 6,750 mph. {all approximate figures]
Therefore, when the earth is moved from her place; it will travel at 90 mph faster, hardly noticeable at all. Just our Calander will have to be changed to 12 - 30 day months for each year.
I see it as quite probable that the moon will also be moved; to an exact 30 day orbit of the earth.

All the scriptural truths for the latter days, are proof that the Lord will use the power from the sun to achieve His objectives.
The last time He reset mankinds civilization, was by water, which He Promised never to use again. This next time, there are over 100 graphically stated Prophesies detailing the vast effects of His vengeance and fiery wrath.

Jipsah · May 23, 2026

keras said:
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From ancient records and the Bible, it seems that the earth did have a 360 day year;

Nah, it just had 360 day calendars. THose calendars have to be doctored every year to keep them in sync with the seasons,, which obviously followed the 365.25xxx orbital period.

keras · May 23, 2026

Jipsah said:
Nah, it just had 360 day calendars. THose calendars have to be doctored every year to keep them in sync with the seasons,, which obviously followed the 365.25xxx orbital period.

Either you are wrong or the Bible is.:
Genesis 7:11 and Genesis 8:3-4, says there were just 150 days between the 17th day of the 2nd month to the 17th day of the 7th month. Exactly 5 X 30 day months.

The main point of this thread is to dispel the confusion about the 3 ways that Daniel and Revelation quote the final three and a half years before Jesus Returns. They are all the exact same time period. That is: the second half of Daniels Seventyth 'week'.
The first half of that seven years, is never mentioned in Prophecy, as the peace agreement of Daniel 9:27 will hold firm.

Regarding when that slowing of the earths yearly orbit of the sun happened, I contend that it is more likely when God made Pharoah allow the Israelites leave Egypt. There was severe cosmic disturbances at that time and secular records confirm a close bypass of the comet called Typhon.

keras · May 26, 2026

Time periods of Daniel and Revelation- 3 1/2 years, 42 months and 1260 days:
All of time periods given are from the middle of the 70th week setting up of the Abomination of Desolation. In the last seven years before Jesus Returns, which will commence with the agreement of a 7 year peace treaty between the leader of the One World Government and the leaders of the nation in the holy Land. The first half will be peaceful, so is not mentioned. But when half is spent; Daniel 9:27, the OWG leader will break it and conquer them, at which time the Great Tribulation also begins. Revelation 8:2.........

Daniels’ days of 1260, 1290, and 1335 are linked to the fulfilment of the last three Feasts of the Lord. Christ fulfilled the four spring feasts at His first Advent.
They are Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits and Pentecost. Scholars have noted that they were fulfilled precisely and on the day Appointed.
It is accepted by many Bible students, with a fair level of confidence: that Christ will fulfill the Fall Feasts at His second coming…….precisely and on the days appointed.

They are the: Feast of Trumpets, Feast of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles. Also Hanukkah.
1260 days……Starting at the midpoint, the Antichrist is given authority for 3 ½ years….42 months…time, times and half a time. These are all equivalents of 1260 days.

The Antichrists reign ends when Jesus Returns to the earth, which occurs at the end of the 70th week. Satan, the ‘beast’, the Anti-Christ is chained up then. Revelation 16:16-18 & 19:17-21
It is likely that the Return may occur on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement: Jewish calendar: Tishri 10

From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1290 days. ……Daniel 12:11
30 days after Jesus Returns; the Jewish calendar date for 30 days after Tishri 10 is Cheshvan 10. This is the day that Noah and his family entered the ark then 7 days later, the Flood came. Genesis 7:10
This 30 days may be the celebration of the marriage supper of the Lamb. Revelation 19:5-9 It includes the Feast of Tabernacles on Tishri 15 to the 22nd.

How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! Daniel 12:12
Hanukkah is the feast that celebrates the rededication of the temple, on Kislev 25.
It was desecrated by the first Abomination of Desolation set up by Antiochus 4th Epiphanes in the second century BC.
It is exactly 75 days after Tishri 10.
The 1335th day may be another rededication of the desecrated Temple, again on Hanukkah, the celebration of lighting the candles.

The other Feast, Yom Teruah on Tishri 1; is the Feast of Trumpets.
This most likely will be the forthcoming Day of the Lord’s wrath, the Sixth Seal event. The next Prophesied event we can expect, to commence all the end times.

This fits with prophecy, as many scriptures say the Trumpet will be blown on that Day. Joel 2:1-2, Ezekiel 7:14, Zechariah 9:14, Isaiah 18:3, Isaiah 29:6, Hosea 5:8-9
Yom Teruah is also the Day that cannot be certainly dated, as it is declared when the first sliver of the new moon is sighted in Jerusalem. You cannot know that Day.....
Ref: logostelos.info

Jipsah · May 26, 2026

keras said:
Either you are wrong or the Bible is.:

Nope. The earth's orbit can't be shown to have changed significantly in the past few millennia, But historically there have been a number of 360 day calendars that had to be adjusted annually to make them correspond to the immovable cycle of the seasons.

keras said:
Genesis 7:11 and Genesis 8:3-4, says there were just 150 days between the 17th day of the 2nd month to the 17th day of the 7th month.

Sounds good to me. THat would strictly a matter of calendar months.

keras said:
Exactly 5 X 30 day months.

Which is less than either a calendar year or an actual year, and therefore the same. They're only 5.X DAYS different.

keras said:
The main point of this thread is to dispel the confusion about the 3 ways that Daniel and Revelation quote the final three and a half years before Jesus Returns

Raal years or calendar years? The 360 day "year" is purely arbitrary.
And in any case, I think that fits withing the old engineer's MCA level of precision, "Measure with micrometer, mark with Chalk, chop with Ax.

keras said:
. They are all the exact same time period. Nope.

The 360 day "year" is 5.25 days too short, if you're insistent upon precision measurable in increments of days.

keras said:
That is: the second half of Daniels Seventyth 'week'.
The first half of that seven years, is never mentioned in Prophecy, as the peace agreement of Daniel 9:27 will hold firm.

Regarding when that slowing of the earths yearly orbit of the sun happened,

That would be, in reality, never. But for all practical porpoises, it's not significant in any case. It's like measuring the amount of water in the Pacific in milliliters. If I'm a liter or two high, prove it. <Laugh>

keras said:
I contend that it is more likely when God made Pharoah allow the Israelites leave Egypt. There was severe cosmic disturbances at that time and secular records confirm a close bypass of the comet called Typhon.

Sure, why not? I don't think your equations are gonna be disproven by any here present.

keras · May 30, 2026

Jipsah said:
I don't think your equations are gonna be disproven by any here present.

You avoid Isaiah 13:13 Too unlucky for you?
Bible Prophecy plainly states - the earth will be moved from her place.... Any wise-cracking suggestions as to how this could happen and when?

My explanation, gained from much study of the Bible and of natural things, is - the Lord is about to unleash the power of the sun to correct a world gone wrong again, as it was in the days of Noah. It will be the Sixth Seal, the multi prophesied terrible Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath.
A massive earth directed explosion on the suns surface will initially send a powerful Electro-Magnetic Pulse, that will destroy all electrical systems facing the sun, and most importantly; cause the nuke tipped missiles that Iran will have ready to fire at Israel, to explode on the launch pad. Psalms 7:12-16

Then; about 24 hours later, the main mass of superheated Hydrogen Plasma ejected will strike firstly the moon, making it flare up bright red, then the earth - at mid day Mid Eastern time. Zephaniah 2:4
This mass will affect all the world as it rotates, but as the earth moves at 66,000 mph along its orbital track, the mass will mostly strike the following edge, thereby pushing the earth into a faster orbit. Of 360 days exactly.

Jipsah · May 30, 2026

keras said:
This mass will affect all the world as it rotates, but as the earth moves at 66,000 mph along its orbital track, the mass will mostly strike the following edge, thereby pushing the earth into a faster orbit. Of 360 days exactly.

That has a familiar ring to it. But it isn't any more persasive than it has been the past few dozen times you'v said it. I dunno how you seized upon a CME as the the answer to all "End Times" questions, but it just doesn't work, I like the new twist, the coronal mass will hit the earth hard enough to knock it out of orbit. That's another of the areas that require a Magic CME to make happen. A typical one chucks about 11 gigatons of chsrged particles, in the form of a widely dispersed cloud. That's a fraction of the mass of the earth's atmosphere, nemmind the actual heavy bits like continents and oceans and such.

You've painted yourself into the same kind of corner that the old 20th century date setters got themselves into. They interpreted all the really scary bits of the Revelation into new magic technology, most nuclear in some form, and giant all-knowing computers. Sounded real good at the time, but it hasn't aged well at all.

Then again, those old timers also "knew" that our Lord had to return by 1988 because Israel. That didn't work out either. (The hold-outs have increased the length of of a "generation" to 100 years, thus rendering the term meaningless),

Our Lord will return when it is His good pleasure to do so. WE don'r know when that will be, because He said we wouldn't.

But if you're still collecting Signs of the End, here's one for you: there now two competitive cricket leagues in hillbilly middleTennessee, The Nashville Crisket Leadue is, I think, onlt T20, But The Nashville Tennesse Cricket League has both 40 over and T20 division. Great fun. I don't play (God forbid!), but it makes for a pleasant Saturday jaunt.

keras · May 30, 2026

Jipsah said:
I like the new twist, the coronal mass will hit the earth hard enough to knock it out of orbit. That's another of the areas that require a Magic CME to make happen. A typical one chucks about 11 gigatons of chsrged particles, in the form of a widely dispersed cloud. That's a fraction of the mass of the earth's atmosphere, nemmind the actual heavy bits like continents and oceans and such.

I have always, [since 2010] said the CME the Lord will instigate and will fulfil: move the earth out of her place. Isaiah 13:13
You, like many others; have some difficulty in comprehending this forthcoming worldwide disaster. But then - neither did the ante-diluvian peoples have any clue of their fate. It seems to never have even rained before the Flood came, whereas we have had many warnings of how the sun can damage our modern lifestyle.

'knocked out of orbit'? This CME, of unprecedented magnitude, Joel 2:2b, will mainly just strike the earth on the trailing edge, speeding up our set orbital track around the sun. By a mere 90mph, from 6,660 mph to 6,750 mph.
The main effects on the earth will be tectonic plate movement, caused by microwave penetration; Deuteronomy 32:22, Revelation 6:14b

Thanks for your input, I enjoy presenting facts to the nay-sayers.
Cricket is the best game out there. A game of real skill and teamwork, with an amazing history. The only sport that I watch and because of New Zealand's time difference, that is very often in our nighttime. So, if I post during your day time, I may be distracted!

keras · May 30, 2026

Jipsah said:
Our Lord will return when it is His good pleasure to do so. WE don'r know when that will be, because He said we wouldn't.

If people actually read the several instances and the context of where it is said; we 'cannot know the Day or the hour of My coming', it can be ascertained that it does not refer to the glorious Return of King Jesus, but to His forthcoming terrible Day of vengeance and wrath.
When He will not be seen - Psalms 18:11, Habakkuk 3:4 and in Psalms 11:4-6 we see He does not even leave heaven on that Day.

The Lords Day of wrath is a completely different Day to the glorious Return. For example- does Amos 5:18-20 relate in any way to Revelation 19:11-14 He does destroy the attacking armies of Satan at Armageddon, verses 15-21, in a mass slaughter, similar to the 185k Assyrian army that attacked Jerusalem in Hezakiah's day.

Jipsah · May 31, 2026

keras said:
If people actually read the several instances and the context of where it is said; we 'cannot know the Day or the hour of My coming'

Ah, so our Lord was playing the politician and making things sound one way bur mean something else. Nah, ain't buying it. That'a another of those "Ah, but what they really means is... something different that fits someone else's theology. Sorry, not buying that either. That;'s been the fallback of every date-setter who ever predicted and date for some "End Times" milestone or the other which is to say all of them who've chosen a date that was actually reached (or reachable).

keras said:
, it can be ascertained that it does not refer to the glorious Return of King Jesus,

Because date setting would then be a ridiculus exercise in futility.

keras said:
but to His forthcoming terrible Day of vengeance and wrath.
When He will not be seen - Psalms 18:11, Habakkuk 3:4 and in Psalms 11:4-6 we see He does not even leave heaven on that Day.

"Dance a little side step, now you see me now you don't".

keras said:
The Lords Day of wrath is a completely different Day to the glorious Return. For example- does Amos 5:18-20 relate in any way to Revelation 19:11-14 He does destroy the attacking armies of Satan at Armageddon, verses 15-21, in a mass slaughter, similar to the 185k Assyrian army that attacked Jerusalem in Hezakiah's day.

Jipsah · May 31, 2026

We're better off talking cricket. I drive the hour each way to Lewisburg Tennessee to watch the Indian bloke play. Carry gallon jug of sweet tea. and a bunch of cookies and share 'em amongst the regulars and their young'uns. Not a bad way to spend a Saturday afternoon.

keras · Jun 1, 2026

Jipsah said:
Because date setting would then be a ridiculus exercise in futility.

The Christian peoples of God will be able to know the Day of the glorious Return. That will happen exactly 1260 days after the conqueror of Jerusalem sits in the Temple and declares himself to be God. 2 Thess 2:4

Even with the forthcoming terrible Day of the Lords wrath, we have much information about the situation before it; the world as it was in the days of Noah and the preparations of the peoples; especially in the Middle East. Ezekiel 7:14

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