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Kash Patel snorkeling at the Arizona Memorial

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The latest complaint from the media is Director Patel Snorkeling at the Arizona memorial - let's take a look:

FBI Director Kash Patel took VIP snorkel trip around USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor, Navy says

While on an official visit to Hawaii last summer, Patel took a rare VIP snorkeling tour of Pearl Harbor, as first reported Thursday by The Associated Press.​
The U.S. Navy confirmed the tour took place in a statement Thursday to ABC News.​
The tour was arranged for Patel by the U.S. Navy and included swimming near the wreckage of the USS Arizona, where 900 U.S. sailors and Marines died in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.​
Cornell also described it as "standard practice" for the Navy to "partner with local leadership to host and support distinguished visitors in the area when requested."
So it is standard practice

https://www.the-independent.com/new...tel-snorkel-hawaii-pearl-harbor-b2976975.html

Kash Patel’s Hawaii trip - which FBI claimed was not a vacation - included a ‘VIP snorkel’ at Pearl Harbor memorial, report says


Since the Obama administration, the Navy and the Park Service have occasionally allowed a small number of dignitaries and officials to swim at the site, though the Navy declined to provide a list of those who have been granted access.​
Swimming at the site started with the Obama Administration

Since the Obama administration, the Navy and National Park Service have quietly allowed a small number of dignitaries—Navy admirals, secretaries of defense and interior, and officials involved in managing the memorial—to swim at the site. Former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller confirmed he snorkeled over the Arizona during an official visit. seattletimes.com bostonglobe.com

While rare - it is not unusual. Nothing to melt down over IMHO



 

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The latest complaint from the media is Director Patel Snorkeling at the Arizona memorial - let's take a look:

FBI Director Kash Patel took VIP snorkel trip around USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor, Navy says

While on an official visit to Hawaii last summer, Patel took a rare VIP snorkeling tour of Pearl Harbor, as first reported Thursday by The Associated Press.​
The U.S. Navy confirmed the tour took place in a statement Thursday to ABC News.​
The tour was arranged for Patel by the U.S. Navy and included swimming near the wreckage of the USS Arizona, where 900 U.S. sailors and Marines died in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.​
Cornell also described it as "standard practice" for the Navy to "partner with local leadership to host and support distinguished visitors in the area when requested."
So it is standard practice
It's "standard practice" for the Navy to host dignitaries to the area when requested.

No, it's not "standard practice" to go snorkeling around the USS Arizona.


Kash Patel’s Hawaii trip reportedly included ‘VIP snorkel’ session at Pearl Harbor

Kash Patel’s Hawaii trip - which FBI claimed was not a vacation - included a ‘VIP snorkel’ at Pearl Harbor memorial, report says


Since the Obama administration, the Navy and the Park Service have occasionally allowed a small number of dignitaries and officials to swim at the site, though the Navy declined to provide a list of those who have been granted access.​
Swimming at the site started with the Obama Administration

Since the Obama administration, the Navy and National Park Service have quietly allowed a small number of dignitaries—Navy admirals, secretaries of defense and interior, and officials involved in managing the memorial—to swim at the site. Former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller confirmed he snorkeled over the Arizona during an official visit. seattletimes.com bostonglobe.com
I've been to the Memorial several times. I agree with the man who said:

“It’s like having a bachelor party at a church,” he told the AP. “It’s hallowed ground. It needs to be treated with the solemnity it deserves.”
While rare - it is not unusual. Nothing to melt down over IMHO
"Rare" = "Unusual."
 
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The latest complaint from the media is Director Patel Snorkeling at the Arizona memorial - let's take a look:

FBI Director Kash Patel took VIP snorkel trip around USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor, Navy says

While on an official visit to Hawaii last summer, Patel took a rare VIP snorkeling tour of Pearl Harbor, as first reported Thursday by The Associated Press.​
The U.S. Navy confirmed the tour took place in a statement Thursday to ABC News.​
The tour was arranged for Patel by the U.S. Navy and included swimming near the wreckage of the USS Arizona, where 900 U.S. sailors and Marines died in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.​
Cornell also described it as "standard practice" for the Navy to "partner with local leadership to host and support distinguished visitors in the area when requested."
So it is standard practice

Kash Patel’s Hawaii trip reportedly included ‘VIP snorkel’ session at Pearl Harbor

Kash Patel’s Hawaii trip - which FBI claimed was not a vacation - included a ‘VIP snorkel’ at Pearl Harbor memorial, report says


Since the Obama administration, the Navy and the Park Service have occasionally allowed a small number of dignitaries and officials to swim at the site, though the Navy declined to provide a list of those who have been granted access.​
Swimming at the site started with the Obama Administration

Since the Obama administration, the Navy and National Park Service have quietly allowed a small number of dignitaries—Navy admirals, secretaries of defense and interior, and officials involved in managing the memorial—to swim at the site. Former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller confirmed he snorkeled over the Arizona during an official visit. seattletimes.com bostonglobe.com

While rare - it is not unusual. Nothing to melt down over IMHO
Who’s melting down over this?
People are just wondering what official duty Director Patel was accomplishing during this dive.
That’s all.
 
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Who’s melting down over this?
People are just wondering what official duty Director Patel was accomplishing during this dive.
That’s all.
Tours of Historic places happen all the time during official trips.

You honestly think they go from meeting to hotel room to flying home? Did anyone ask what official duty Obama accomplished during his tour of the Giza Pyramids? he was sightseeing - just like Patel.
 
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I don't know. With Kash and his drinking, having FBI aides drive home his drunk girl friend, the KASH whiskey, and all the negative leaks coming out from his subordinates, one would think he would tone it down. But no, this is the Trump admin. Let them eat cake.
 
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Tours of Historic places happen all the time during official trips.

You honestly think they go from meeting to hotel room to flying home? Did anyone ask what official duty Obama accomplished during his tour of the Giza Pyramids? he was sightseeing - just like Patel.
If snorkeling around the Arizona was a normal activity that anyone could do (like touring the pyramids), I don't think there would be any questions about it. But it's not.
 
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Tours of Historic places happen all the time during official trips.

You honestly think they go from meeting to hotel room to flying home? Did anyone ask what official duty Obama accomplished during his tour of the Giza Pyramids? he was sightseeing - just like Patel.
lol, he was “sightseeing “ like Trump is “known for his generosity.”
 
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If it was most anyone else who's not part of the Trump administration, those protesting would have nothing to say about it. Lots of people are hoping lots of vilification will lead to Democrats winning a House majority in the midterm elections.
 
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It was like playing football in Arlington cemetery - disrespectful.


The diver said it was unusual for a director or anyone not connected to the memorial to be granted such access because the swims come with physical risks and present security, safety and logistical challenges.​
The diver preferred to remain anonymous for fear of retribution by the adminstration.

He should focus on his job.
 
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It was like playing football in Arlington cemetery - disrespectful.


The diver said it was unusual for a director or anyone not connected to the memorial to be granted such access because the swims come with physical risks and present security, safety and logistical challenges.​
The diver preferred to remain anonymous for fear of retribution by the adminstration.

He should focus on his job.
How was it like playing football in Arlington cemetery? Was he hooting and hollering and tossing around a beachball or something to that effect?
 
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snorkling is a sport like football - the Arizona and the waters around it are hallowed like Arlington.

All the drinking, times of being inaccessible, missusing SWAT to take his girlfriend home, lavish trips on a private plane at taxpayer expense.... he should be removed from the job.
 
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A minor faux pas I'd say. But we're only discussing it because you brought it up.
I remember back in 1979 I had the opportunity to augment a Strategic Air Command operational readiness inspection of the 9th Wing at Beale Air Force Base.

That is the base that operated the SR-71 and still operates the U-2. You have to understand that a SAC OR inspection was exceedingly serious. In one case, a wing failed inspection and the commander was ordered off the base by sundown. Officers' careers could be instantly ruined by just the ill phrasing of an inspector's report.

Part of my inspection on the first day included the hangar where one SR-71 sat waiting for its next mission. Up to that time, I hadn't actually been in the presence of the aircraft, and I was somewhat awed. I said, rather offhandly, "It would be really cool to sit in that."

And the people accommodated that wish.

At the time, I didn't really think much of that, except for the coolness factor. Some time later, though, I realized they should not have allowed me to get inside an operational mission-status aircraft. They were breaking protocol. But they were also afraid of getting even a mildly negative inspection report.

Yes, I had abused the power I'd been delegated, even if unconsciously.
 
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Like those who visit Arlington and the cemetery at Andersonville?
Similar if those visiting Arlington cemetery and Andersonville prison are doing something akin to snorkeling at those sites.
 
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It’s obnoxious, clueless behavior by a man prone to being obnoxious and clueless, but of all the obnoxious and clueless things he’s done, this one is one of his lesser infractions. It’s on par with jogging through Arlington, wading in the 9/11 memorial, or blasting your music at Gettysburg.

I’m more irritated that he got such a poignant opportunity that he utterly wasted or didn’t understand the significance of. Dude was basically invited to the basement of the Alamo, and the weight of that honor was completely wasted on him. I’ll freely admit if I was in his position, I’d take every opportunity to see slices of American history from every angle the privilege of my role would grant me. But I also understand the significance of such an honor.
 
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It’s obnoxious, clueless behavior by a man prone to being obnoxious and clueless, but of all the obnoxious and clueless things he’s done, this one is one of his lesser infractions. It’s on par with jogging through Arlington, wading in the 9/11 memorial, or blasting your music at Gettysburg.

I’m more irritated that he got such a poignant opportunity that he utterly wasted or didn’t understand the significance of. Dude was basically invited to the basement of the Alamo, and the weight of that honor was completely wasted on him. I’ll freely admit if I was in his position, I’d take every opportunity to see slices of American history from every angle the privilege of my role would grant me. But I also understand the significance of such an honor.
Perhaps such an excursion is considered a perk of the Office (that most directors don’t avail themselves to) and the rarity of this occurrence is the controversy?
 
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